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Friday, April 4, 2025
A Video on St. Patrick, an Observation on the Demons he Drove out
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: Black Magic in Shimao and Ur · More Like the Same? · What About the Opposite? · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Gospel against Cannibalism and Accusation thereof. · A Video on St. Patrick, an Observation on the Demons he Drove out
The Fierce Courage of St. Patrick | FORWARD BOLDLY
Christine Niles | 17.III.2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx7o5-cSw-I
9:20 Have you heard of Fontbrégoua Cave in S. France?
If not, you may have heard of Herxheim. Now, Herxheim, Fontbrégoua, El Toro were three very similar places of Cannibalism in the Neolithic. In Fontbrégoua, archaeologists have said, they are not quite sure. It could be secondary burials.
I don't believe secondary burials involve cracking open bones to extract the marrow ... unless the burial ritual involves, you know, Cannibalism.
Now, I sometimes in bored moments will do stuff that involves some calculation. For instance, 48° 51′ 23″ N, 2° 21′ 08″ E is the Town Hall of Paris. If I add 90 degrees to the East, I get obviously 48° 51′ 23″ N, 92° 21′ 08″ E ... and I want to know where that is. I change the coordinate on GeoHack ... and I came near sth that could be a river or sth, with the text Myangad Naranbulag. It's in Western Mongolia.
I did that for Herxheim, Fontbrégoua and El Toro too. Not just 90 degrees further East (or West for El Toro), the easist add, but also 90 degrees to the other direction of the compass and 180 degrees.
Unlike Marian shrines, these three have a common theme on two of the points, where they are not in the Pacific. Also common with the localities themselves. All of them are near borders. 1) Herxheim in Germany is near France. To the East you get Mongolia very near Russia. To the West you get a place in Canada, South of Hudson Bay, near the border of Quebec, which once was an actual border, when Quebec was a French possession. Obviously, the area between Hudson Bay and Toronto is also a place where any part is closer to the current US border than the middle line of Canada would normally be. 2) Fontbrégoua is in France, near Monaco and Italy. The other two are in Mongolia, near the border of China, and in the US, near the border of Canada. 3) El Toro is in Spain, near Gibraltar and Morocco. To the West, you have a place in Missouri, near the four junction of states, near former France (Missouri) and former Cherokee territory.
Whether God chose to comment on where the demons inspired their evil, or whether the demons chose the spots because God had revealed the places would be near borders and the cross-points too ... the common theme is there.
For Shimao and Ur, servants were sacrificed in graves of lords. For both, the crosspoints land in the water, not just the Pacific one.
For Carthage, it was a battle field itself, and the crosspoints except the Pacific one are near battles (Lexington in the US, Battle of Dafei River, where Tibet conquered Tuyuhun in modern Qinghai.
For Gehenna, you have these cross points:
31°46′11″N 125°13′36″E
Offshore between China, Korea and Japan
31°46′11″N 54°46′24″W
Offshore between Canada, US, Brazil
31°46′11″N 144°46′24″W
Pacific, between California and Honolulu
For Tyre you have these ones:
33°16′15″N 125°11′46″E
Offshore near Korea
33°16′15″N 54°48'14"W
Offshore East of Bermuda
33°16′15″N 144°48'14"W
Pacific, West of California, NE of Honolulu
For the earliest known human sacrifice of the Neolithic you also have the offshore theme.
There is no way that the men who committed the atrocities had any knowledge this would be the case naturally. So, someone else, not human, certainly knew. I guess demons, and as to foreknowledge of battles and frontiers, God could have given them that.
Meanwhile, Rue de Bac, La Salette, Lourdes, Fátima, Šiluva, none of the spooky "themes" on cross points, for Rue de Bac rather a calm theme, solidly inside countries, the supernatural is in the Marian apparitions and graces thereafter themselves.
Thursday, April 3, 2025
Judicial Overreach ... Sharing a Story
It's fictional, as per the disclaimer, but it typefies a certain type of behaviour:
Judge Fines Pam Bondi for Wearing a Cross—Then Uncovers Her Legal Brilliance
Elite Stories | 18 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX5ICKMErh8
It's even easier when people have to do with rubber rules than in a courtroom of normal proceedings (judges on liberties are not normal)./HGL
Wednesday, April 2, 2025
While I Have Touched on Theology, More Than A Little, I Have Not Proclaimed Myself a Theologian
For all the Self-proclaimed theologians.
The Catholic Wire | 9 Febr. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AdQRqB2JM
6:39 Who introduced psychology into seminars?
9:17 I have seen a commentary by Lapide, which, for Creation week day IV, introduces a discussion from the 19th C.
Haydock is a commentary for laymen, and we know he writes in the 19th C. Some whom he cites wrote in the patristic or scholastic era, but the only trace of Heliocentric compatibility that I have seen (and by compatibility, I mean not considering Heliocentrism condemned by a passage) are from Haydock, on Joshua 10, and from Guillaume François Berthier, SJ, whose work on the Psalms was published posthumousy in 1782. None of the commenters, not even Haydock or Berthier, show a Heliocentric preference.
Pope Michael I was an outspoken Geocentric, as you may know. His successor has not retracted that.
So, supposing I'm not wrong to take the election as validly by the virtue of epikeia transferring the task of electing a pope downward, I know I have the backing of the latest Pope who pronounced himself.
9:42 Deo gratias, si uolo studere Postillae in Libros Geneseos uel Condempnationibus Episcopi Parisiensis Stephani II Tempier et sine versione anglica id possum.
Refutaui quendam "Balaster Convalier" qui scripsit Sanctum Robertum dixisse, "si papa dixerit quid contra ueritatem uel moralem, ecclesia est obligata credere falsa uel mala", quia semel una bibliotheca Dominicanorum inueni Robertum Bellarminum et uidi eum reuera dixisse "si papa dixerit etc, ecclesia esset obligata etc" in casu irreali.
Eo tempore aliqui Photiani incoeperunt me pro catamitam ponere et in tergo quasi mihi, quasi non mihi dicere dimidiam accusationis.
In facultate Lundensi latinae et graecae linguis studium feci ... et pro latina, nunquam nimiam aerugam patiebatur.
[tried to add:]
numquam nimia aerugine patiebatur, my bad
10:44 I am very aware that a certain man in Manresa was told by the Inquisitors, he was not allowed to continue giving women advice on the difference between venial and mortal without studying moral theology. I hope the man was from Heaven not too pround of Berthier, but regardless of when corruption came into his order, I am, when touching on theology, which is not always the case when I write, abstaining very consciously from giving that kind of advice.
Nevertheless, Gilbert Keith Chesterton did not have the full training of a priest in seminary when he wrote The Everlasting Man, which is part of what Pius XI rewarded him for.
I try to give comment in the Apologetic field mainly, when at all theological. When political, I tend to take cues from Franco, Dollfuss, Schuschnigg ... and Chesterton. Not forgetting his comrade Belloc. When engaged in comments on the MIddle Ages of Latin Christendom, I take as part base the things I learned from C. S. Lewis, J. R. R. Tolkien, G. K. Chesterton, Hilaire Belloc, plus some extra tidbits that have been dug up later, like it was probably some kind of Eurocommunist who wrote the book I read in Swedish "den dynamiska medeltiden" where I learned about Nicole d'Oresme ... the man who said, "Heliocentrism is, against every objection, a) possible, and b) totally pointless" ... (yes, the author was Swedish, the book is from 1984).
I also use statistics taken from wikipedian articles arranged inter alia by genealogy (for Lewis XVI and Marie Antoinette, I take each as Sosa-Stradonitz 1 and go back to Sosa-Stradonitz 63 or 127 or so ...). Or facts I find in contemporary historians of the Middle Ages.
But, as said, I respect what the Inquisitors told St. Ignatius of Loyola. Unless the issue is very obvious, like getting slightly tipsy just before you go to bed is not a mortal sin.
There have been 24 years since I came on the internet, my plan to get a better life has always been to get texts from my blogs (essays, with permission from other participants even dialogues, some poems, some sheet music) commercially valorised. You know, at least part of the occupation that Chesterton made his living from. In this query, I have been harrassed from the left, by Protestants who think I really must come to terms with Apologetics not really proving things, "reasons without proof" as someone put it, as well as Christian virtue being impossible, and from a kind of right who, incorrectly, have perceived me as some kind of rival to priests.
I have been under some kind of pastoral at a distance from trad priests who have taken the idea, on my blogs "he doesn't really need the money, it's not like we rob him, he's not interested in getting married" and on any show I am making of trying to get married "oh, he can't responsibly marry, he has no income" ... I would consider those who take this approach as robbers.
An explanation of Sedevacantism - Is the SSPX correct?
The Catholic Wire | 11 Jan. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvpbzcwJW0o
[under this one, I posed the question where he stood on Pope Michael II
... deleted or hidden]
Tuesday, April 1, 2025
Does Anti-White Racism Exist? Yes
YouTuber Alec Gunter Called Me a N4zi, F4scist, YT Supremacist, Racist. My Counter Attack
Metatron | 31 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIAnSygfZdo
I'm a bit affected by this kind of thing.
I came out in defense of Kyle Rittenhouse.
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: A Thread As Allie Denounced Disney +
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2023/02/a-thread-as-allie-denounced-disney.html
It came up again in 2023:
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: A Thread As Allie Denounced Disney +
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2023/02/a-thread-as-allie-denounced-disney.html
Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Allie's Video, Outside the Thread with J R
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2023/02/allies-video-outside-thread-with-j-r.html
I live in the street, I have to this day people of coulour passing by with noise when I try to sleep, in some cases very clearly deliberately, because they perceive me as a racist.
[tried to add:]
Sorry, first link should be:
Φιλολoγικά/Philologica: "This takes us back to enslavement" a Black woman said ...
https://filolohika.blogspot.com/2021/11/this-takes-us-back-to-enslavement-black.html
Monday, March 31, 2025
Galileo Case
What Galileo Means For Atheists, Catholics, and Protestants in 2025
Gavin Ortlund | 31 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS4rjpaZKmA
How do you feel about the idea that the best proof text for Geocentrism is Romans 1?
You know, there are Catholics and even Protestants who haven't abandoned the historic reluctance for the position of Galileo.
I think Pope Michael I on occasion cited Gerardus Dingeman Bouw. Doctor in Astrophysics.
2:16 You are levying a heavy accusation against Pope Urban VIII.
He did not sit in judgement over Galileo. Among the assessors, one other Barberini, a relative of the Pope, did not vote.
If he was annoyed, he went to some length to assure the annoyance would not play into the judgement.
10:38 I think this is the second or third if probably not fourth time you call Galileo's attitude prior to 1633 "Augustinian" ... is your criterium for that the very overquoted "it sometimes happens" passage?
Because if you read book I of De Genesi ad Litteram libri XII, St. Augustine actually comes out very directly as a Geocentric.
7:30 Antipope Wojtyla was not just feeling sorry for how Galileo was treated, he also expressed, erroneously, that he was right.
19:50 For once, Luther is spot on.*
The result, chapter 10, verse 13, is given in narrative and could be phenomenological language.
But the immediate miraculous cause, Joshua's words after the prayer to God, we don't expect phenomenological language in the words working a miracle. We don't expect a miracle worker to say the words that someone else expect's them to say to adress what is involved in the result, but we expect them to say the words that are in fact things involved in the result. If Jesus tells a demon "go out of him" or "go out of her" we don't expect this to be a roundabout adress to a mental disease that's intrapersonal, we expect that another person, created thousands of years earlier, was interfering with the person (from the inside) and told to get out.
19:50 For once, Luther is spot on.
The result, chapter 10, verse 13, is given in narrative and could be phenomenological language.
But the immediate miraculous cause, Joshua's words after the prayer to God, we don't expect phenomenological language in the words working a miracle. We don't expect a miracle worker to say the words that someone else expect's them to say to adress what is involved in the result, but we expect them to say the words that are in fact things involved in the result. If Jesus tells a demon "go out of him" or "go out of her" we don't expect this to be a roundabout adress to a mental disease that's intrapersonal, we expect that another person, created thousands of years earlier, was interfering with the person (from the inside) and told to get out.
21:41 John Owen is actually doing Heliocentrism too much honour in pretending it "built on fallible phenomena" ... no, the phenomena Galileo observed were good, but Heliocentrism was not built on them. And Ptolemaic astronomy is not privileged over Tychonian in Scripture.
John Owen and John Calvin examplify two of the things I mistrust and at times (when too exposed) detest in some Protestants:
- granting the erring scientist that the phenomena support him, like a certain type of Creationist very far from Creation Science who would pretend that Dino bones if real would be a point in favour of Deep Time and Evolution, so they must be false;
- or pretending mad, demon possessed and monstruous someone disagreeing with them, like it seems some Protestants do about my relative support for the Inquisition (while it lasted) and my support for Inquisitors being right and Galileo being wrong.
23:23 Would you mind going a bit further?
Put yourself in their mindset, imagine one of them transported to the present and confronted with all the arguments of modern scientific establishment, BUT not having received this from childhood at home PLUS several times over in school.
What in the modern arguments would persuade them?
I have basically "St. Thomas looking over my shoulder" as I peruse the modern arguments. To me it's clear, if the Medieval and Ancient arguments are given a fair hearing, nothing can persuade anyone short of an Atheist of Heliocentrism. Or some very impersonal type of Pantheist, like a Spinozist or Hegelian. Also no Christian.
In the Middle Ages, one Nicolas Oresme, who ended up as bishop in Lisieux, which you may imagine many Catholics would consider a Holy Place, bc of St. Thérèse Martin or Sister Thérèse of the Child Jesus and of the Holy Face, before that, as a scholastic in Paris, gave an argument about Heliocentrism.
a) everything in it is theoretically possible
b) but it is totally superfluous, Geocentrism works just fine.
23:52 Where do you get it from that Heliocentrism was genuine scientific advance (or has become so since)?
Is it just a postulate to make the Galileo case this "cautionary tale"?
24:58 Is Augustinianism short for this overquoted and quotemined quotable quote "it sometimes happens that ..."?
25:26 Tycho Brahe would interpret these verses exactly as a Medieval Ptolemaic would.
You are suggesting that Scripture could say things that go beyond the immediate context verbally and still not really mean them.
26:33 I'm reading Scripture in the context of the Church that made Oresme a bishop and Galileo a suspect.
26:50 To us Catholics that would primarily be Haydock.
The commentary explicitly compatible with Heliocentrism is late:
92:1 This does not prove that the earth moves not on its own axis daily, and round the sun every year. (Berthier)
95:10 The Christian faith shall not be abolished, (Menochius) or corrected. (Haydock) --- "Faith is not to be reformed." (Tertullian)
103:5 The established order shall subsist, though the earth may move, Psalm ci. 27. (Berthier) --- It is fixed by its own gravity in the centre. (Worthington)
Worthington took the position of St. Thomas and held Aristotelic Gravity.
W. F. Berthier wrote in 1782, sorry, was published in the year of his death, namely 1782:
Guillaume-François Berthier, S.J.
One metaphoric sense goes against reforming the faith with modernity changing the meaning.
* "However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth."
Defending the 1990 Emergency Conclave
I am Not a Usurer · Celarent or Cesare? · Defending the 1990 Emergency Conclave
Traditional Catholic Groups Explained
DenshiVideo | 30 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbrt_UDi5EA
32:05 You are actually attributing to the late Pope Michael I a motive that cannot be totally verified.
Bawden wanted to see if a Pope could be elected.
Ask Theresa S. Benns if she believed and perhaps participated in David Bawden sending out invitations to lots of bishops. If he actually did, he hoped for someone else to become Pope.
If he didn't, but the other participants believed he did, they at least believed the "emergency conclave" was validly convoked. And it's those other five who elected him.
So, to the purposes of at least five people (the only ones who voted for him, he didn't vote for himself) he tried to get a Pope elected.
32:37 Thanks for noting Michael II exists and at least admitting he's a priest.
You could have done one better and also admit Michael I was ordinained priest and consecrated bishop the Gaudete weekend in 2011.
Ruin a Man's Life with False Evidence ....
The New Jerusalem Report 65-Taking responsibility
The New Jerusalem Report | 31 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex-tZKhamPA
6:32 I think some people have taken me for that bitter man in prison, and think they are angels when they are offering themselves as mentors.
The reality is, legally I got out of prison in 2000. People who think they are mentoring me are just prolonging the sentence illegally.
6:42 How do you expect someone to forgive if he's never allowed to have a life?
If every day is stolen by people who think they are teaching him forgiveness?
8:42 I'm providing myself with work and God is allowing me to write about things.
Some people think I need their service for the homeless "to raise me up" and so are against me living off my work.
- The New Jerusalem Report
- @TheNewJerusalemReport
- A man's only freedom is inside himself.You get to choose what you want to believe.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @TheNewJerusalemReport There are actually external freedoms as well.
And St. Paul seems to encourage us to keep them.
"You are bought with a great price, don't become slaves to men"
11:23 At least for young Jewish inmates in the camps, I get the impression the Nazis wanted to mentor them.
It's certain that at least some Jews who were old or sick or handicapped were killed, the perpetrator was one of the 1945 suicides, but Hitler had ordered the same thing about Germans in the Aktion T4. I believe the actual deaths were also meant to scare Jewish youngsters inside into compliance. By faking death threats.
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