Kirill's and Vladimir's Russia Targets Protestants?

Russia’s War on Protestant Churches
Apologetics Roadshow | 26 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGs5xt55VZg

6:59 I also view Baptists as heretical to very inadequately catechised Christians.

I'm not into bombing your churches, if you will call them that.

Russia has a kind of paranoia about the Bible and taking it literally.

Oh, surely the Orthodox take the Bible literally? Yeah, Vladimir Moss probably does. Vladimir Putin doesn't, nor do the ecclesiastics he is surrounded with, like Kirill.

Hence, a paranoia about taking the Bible literally.

7:40 I just read along the text a bit quicker than you read aloud.

The Church utilises the concept of "symphonia" ...

OK. Symphonia or in Roman Catholic terms "Christendom" or "Constantinism" or its avatars "Clovisism" and "Volodimirism" for Francia and Ukraine is rooted in Matthew 28 verse ... tada, drum roll, yes, I was right ... 19.

Symphonia makes very good sense for a situation like under the last Czar and was even then abused against Ukrainean Uniates. But under the last Czar, the minimum age for marriage was 15 / 13 (after previously having been 14 / 12, like in Roman Catholicism), and abortion was banned.

In current Russia, abortion is legal, but marrying before 18 / 18 in most regions still isn't.

Under the Czar, sodomy was legally punishable, but that was not enforced. Under Putin, homosexuality is even on that level legal, but tolerance is not fully enforced. Legalise a thing to get a category of people bullied for doing it ... (or for having an unmerited reputation, which cannot be tested since the charge isn't a criminal one).

So, the current Russian state is very much less Christian than that of the Czars.

Kirill's "symphonia" makes zero sense, and it could be a good thing to show symphonia for a Christian state (if there were one) actually opposed to Kirill's and Putin's Russia.

By "Francia" I mean what Germans call "Frankenreich" ... Germany, Switzerland, Austria, BeNeLux, Liechtenstein, Monaco and Northern Italy added to France / Frankreich.

13:24 That's interesting.

Perhaps a decade ago, I had Jay Dyer among my FB friends ...

No longer the case on either of my profiles.

He's also a kind of guy who doesn't allow a wikipedia page, despite being a public figure ...

15:33 ROCOR isn't unified now.

Some have made and some haven't made peace with Patriarchate of Moscow.

Vladimir Moss is also ROCOR, but clearly not a Putin fan. Nor a Kirill fan.

Appendix, Jay Dyer:

THIS ONE ARGUMENT ENDS PROTESTANTISM!
Jay Dyer | 8 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nikr-FF2Tk4

There is actually a refutation of Sola Scriptura in the NT.

Luke 24:27.

Now, I saw you mentioned in a video:

Russia’s War on Protestant Churches
Apologetics Roadshow | 26 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGs5xt55VZg

I commented under it, and my comments are also on this post:

Kirill's and Vladimir's Russia Targets Protestants?
Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere | Sunday, June 28, 2026
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2026/06/kirills-and-vladimirs-russia-targets.html

If you wish to interact, up to you, I'll be sharing. But seriously, Protestantism isn't about Sola Scriptura, you refute it by Malachi 1:11 and Hebrews 13:10.

"Four" Criteria of the Messiah

I gave my solution at 1 minute fifteen seconds into the video, before hearing his:

The #1 Jewish Objection to Jesus...Falls Apart
HIGHWAY 53 - by Jeff Morgan | 26 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQOSTbwW9SI

1:15 World peace is a conflation of two different prophecies.

1) Disarmament and reconciliation of Judah and Ephraim, fulfilled in Christian Palestinians since Acts 2 and Acts 8 (yes, they spoke Aramaic back then, they only switched to Arabic after the failure of the Crusades, whil Muslim Palestinians were somewhat faster).
2) The "word of peace" shall go out to the nations.

Doesn't say it will be obeyed. Just that it will be taught.

The three others are singly fulfilled.

A) Jesus tore down and built up the Third Temple (which He had created for Himself in His Mother's Womb)
B) The exiles fathered on Pentecost (and the direction of all four corners of the "earth" or mainland are represented)
C) Catholicism is knowledge of God, and it is, as the name implies (kath holon ten gen) universal.

Some People Mistrust the Rosary and All and Any Meditative Prayer

This Form of Prayer Looks Christian…But Isn’t
Molly Ann Luna | 23 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUEOWQjFOAY

5:14 No, you do not find them in ancient pagan rituals.

We know way too little about Eleusis to say anything for certain except that it was way more physical than just meditation on some kind of mantra.

If you want phrases from the Bible that the actual Church God founded has vetted and approved as truth for this kind of usage, combine Luke 1:28 (minus the intro) with Luke 1:42 (also minus the intro), and if you want something longer and less emptying, add, after "thy womb" the words "Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and in the hour of our death"

If you want a break, take after each ten of these a praise on the Holy Trinity and then before each ten of these Matthew 6:9 to 13 (minus the intro).

It's called the Rosary.

As for known ancient pagan rituals, they weren't mantras. For the same year as Jesus spoke Matthew 6:7, where the Greek hasn't the word "thrallein" which means repeat the way you describe, you have a recorded ancient Pagan prayer which is the last § of Velleius Paterculus Roman History book II. It's NOTHING like a centering prayer.

Now, if you want Biblical support for repetitive prayers, take the fact that Jesus prayed nights through. Sleep privation can be compensated by the hypnotic state. Meaning, this is presumably how He prayed, since it would have been very difficult to pray an entire night without such support, physiologically speaking.

You mentioned "talking like a child to his father" but do your children never sit silent next to you or your hubby and just feel your presence?

PS, the peace and quiet are not responses from the spirit world, but from your brain. It is not a result of opening up, but opens you up to what you want to open up to ... preferrably God. You don't need a demon to get quiet after repetitive prayer. It's called the alpha state. It's not a result you force, it's a condition for starting to pray with confidence, or at least a help to doing so.

Friendly Neighborhood Jesus Freak

@fnjesusfreak

That's NECROMANCY, Patrick!

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@fnjesusfreak 1) My name isn't Patrick. If you assumed I was Irish, thank you for the compliment.
2) Adressing saints who have passed on isn't necromancy. The description is very specific, and the Rosary doesn't fit it. See the Witch of Endor.
3) Our Lady, on top of that, has, like Her Son, resurrected and entered Heaven body and soul.

You are echoing Jews who call Christians necromancers for adressing Jesus.

Friendly Neighborhood Jesus Freak

Chapter and verse, or it didn't happen.

Couldn't go below notified comment

so I answer it here instead.

He that heareth you, heareth me; and he that despiseth you, despiseth me; and he that despiseth me, despiseth him that sent me.
[Luke 10:16]

But Catholic clergy who are their successors say 3 happened, so it did. Mary is alive, body and soul, in Heaven.

On top of that, you gave no chapter and verse for your claim about prayers to saints being necromancy.

Word peace and purely secular rule, the Messiah? No. (Part I)

She Explored The One Thing Her Rabbi's Strongly Warned Her Against!
SO BE IT! | 20 June 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54APJSm3evo

The disciples say to him: Rabbi, the Jews but now sought to stone thee: and goest thou thither again?
John 11:8

Obviously, the disciples didn't use the word "Jews" back then, St. John is editing, and replacing the real group with the word "Jews" ... unless those very first Christians agreed with Essenians on using "Jews" as a slur for heterodox and "Israelite" for true believer, like Jesus spoke of Nathanael "a true Israelite" ...

This was count 26, not all of the verses with "Jews" in John have this meaning. Like most notably, not the ones at the well of Sychar.

I counted 39 verses in John, where "Jews" is probably used to denote the enemies of Jesus. I didn't take verses like "many of the Jews believed" ...

Add some in Acts, like 17, or 1 Corinthians, "stumbling block to the Jews" and obviously a discussion in Romans 11 ... probably not the majority of the 162 mentions in Douay Rheims, and that Bible has 1334 chapters.

13:26 But Tovia Singer pretends to know he has no miraculous powers.

The spirit of the Lord is upon me, because the Lord hath anointed me: he hath sent me to preach to the meek, to heal the contrite of heart, and to preach a release to the captives, and deliverance to them that are shut up To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God: to comfort all that mourn
[Isaias (Isaiah) 61:1-2]

"and deliverance to them that are shut up" could be just a parallellism to "a release to the captives" ...

He would also say Luke misquotes this:

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me. Wherefore he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor, he hath sent me to heal the contrite of heart To preach deliverance to the captives, and sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of reward
[Luke 4:18-19]

However, let's take a look at LXX.

1 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me; he has sent me to preach glad tidings to the poor, to heal the broken in heart, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and recovery of sight to the blind; 2 to declare the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of recompence; to comfort all that mourn;
ΠΝΕΥΜΑ Κυρίου ἐπ᾿ ἐμέ, οὗ εἵνεκεν ἔχρισέ με· εὐαγγελίσασθαι πτωχοῖς ἀπέσταλκέ με, ἰάσασθαι τοὺς συντετριμένους τὴν καρδίαν, κηρύξαι αἰχμαλώτοις ἄφεσιν καὶ τυφλοῖς ἀνάβλεψιν, 2 καλέσαι ἐνιαυτὸν Κυρίου δεκτὸν καὶ ἡμέραν ἀνταποδόσεως τῷ Θεῷ ἡμῶν, παρακαλέσαι πάντας τοὺς πενθοῦντας,

What's going on?

pə·qaḥ-qō·w·aḥ. = in Berean interlinear = the opening of their bonds

However, explanations say it's a reduplication of paqah ... but qowah has the meaning "strength" including "faculty" ... like sight. Seing is a strength or faculty that man has and a stone hasn't. So, opening of faculties would suggest the translation to the Greek is correct.

Now, I don't speak Hebrew, but I have a hard time taking it it's a reduplication if there actually is such a word as קֽוֹחַ right? And I think there is.

13:46 Ah, world peace.

But the actual words of the prophecy say two different things.

A) peace between Judah and Ephraim and involving both in disarmament completely, fulfilled in Acts 2 and 8 and their descendants, Christian Palestinians, to this day
B) God's word of peace will go out to the nations ... doesn't say they will always obey.

Same Video, My Comments

New blog on the kid: Good News in Title, Bad News Later On · Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Same Video, My Comments

Same video as on my main blog, here are my two actual comments, in context:

[One of the descriptions of how the hospital was corrupt.]

32:40 In Sweden, I have been to wards of mental hospitals, and my impression was generally (apart from the time I was very alone and very drugged) that 9 / 10 to 19 / 20 would be fraudulently diagnosed if it's to add up as "mad" or in older juridical parlance "non capax sui" ...

I'm not saying most were perfectly normal people. I'm saying whatever personality disorder there may have been, they were with very few exceptions not mad and should not have been kept in mental hospital against their will.

I had seen two of these before the day when I defended myself against a policeman lending a hand to psychiatry to get me there.

I was so utterly relieved that evening to be in a pre-trial detention ... looking it up, police custody, arrest.

[a crisis in the Church]

46:39 A crisis foreseen in Apoc. 18?

An Actually Pious Protestant, Against Flat Earth, As He Should, Not For Heliocentrism, and He Shouldn't

Does the Bible teach a flat earth?
Answers from Scripture | 3 June 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1SKmdMCGCs

3:07 Science may have said the Earth is a sphere since Aristotle, but Geography has said so since Magellan.

To the point: Aristotle's four proofs have as the strongest one a pseudo-Magellan. The point was weakened when that error was found to be one, and strengthened beyond destruction once we have Ferdinand Magellan and his shipmates.

Answers from Scripture

@answersfromscriptureonline

And the Bible stated it plainly more than two thousand years before Magellan.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline In theory, a disc could also hang on nothing.

The more plain statement, with today's geographic knowledge is the four corners.

[omitting a private one]

7:15 Fixed Earth, however, is a fact.

You cannot have the universe turning around earth each day, moved by God, if it's earth that's moving.

And Romans 1 (18 to 20) and John 5:17 say God is moving the universe around us each day.

Answers from Scripture

You need to re-read your proof texts. They say nothing whatsoever resembling your claim for them. Sie sollen ihren Beweisrext wieder neu lesen. Die sagen überhaupt nicht was sie von ihnen behauptet haben.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline Well, as to John 5:17, the one work that God is undisputedly performing in the present every Sabbath is referenced, what other could it be than keeping the universe turning, since otherwise time would stop at a Sabbath evening?

Upholding in existence could be argued as not a work, but an ongoing result from creation week. Don't think that's the case, but could be argued, and probably more so among Jews back then. 5I don't have a time machine, and am not a Jew, despite some ancestry).

As to Romans 1, you need a proof for God, which is visible (excludes human reason, despite the proof in Miracles, chapter 3, by CSL), visible without modern equipment (excludes the flagellum of the bacterium), is undisputedly ongoing action (excludes existence or the ordered working of an automaton), argues he ... aïdios autou dunamis = everlasting power, a power that doesn't get tired.

A work of turning the universe around earth each single day certainly fits that bill.

And it also argues the theiotes over all of the universe.

7:35 If it hasn't been proven either way, Geocentricity, as what we observe, is the default.

As what we normally observe, I should say. If you are in a car, you can see the ground move from under your nose and back, if you are in a chopper around the Eiffel Tower, you can see the Eiffel Tower move, and if the Moon moves around Earth every 25 hours, that explains why Armstrong saw the Earth "turn around itself" ...

But if we stand on the ground, the ground isn't moving, the Eiffel Tower isn't moving, the whole Earth isn't moving, but cars, choppers and the Moon are moving.

There are exactly two ways to argue conclusively about God and Tychonian Geocentrism.

Tychonian Geocentrism cannot work without God and angels.
God and angels don't exist.
Therefore Tychonian Geocentrism is false.

Tychonian Geocentrism cannot work without God and angels.
Tychonian Geocentrism holds, as observed.
Therefore God and angels exist.

Answers from Scripture

Your argument is both subjective and circular.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline Show me the circulus in probando.

And show what's faulty in the subjectivity.

8:02 The four corners in Apocalypse 7:1 are the NW corner (Alaska), the SW corner (Cape Horn), let's go across the Pacific, evening and then morning, NE corner (Siberia), SE corner (Tasmania).

Even if the four winds are N, E, S, W, that would be angels, two and two keeping back the wind between them.

Now, each of these corners would also exist on a flat earth map, but the Northern ones would no longer be outer corners, and instead Cape of Good Hope would be a third outer corner. To get a fourth one, you'd need to add the other South corner of Australia, which is disingenious.

Therefore the four corners are with modern geographic knowledge rather a proof text for globe than for disc.

Answers from Scripture

I agree with you that the four corners argument doesn’t need a flat earth to be accurate.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline By now it can't have a flat earth, unless you want Australia to be two of the four corners.

10:12 is where I saw "proven either way"

You'll excuse me for using the verse divisions of Douay Rheims rather than KJV.

Here is Joshua 10:12

Then Josue spoke to the Lord, in the day that he delivered the Amorrhite in the sight of the children of Israel, and he said before them: Move not, O sun, toward Gabaon, nor thou, O moon, toward the valley of Ajalon
[Josue (Joshua) 10:12]

If it was earth that stopped and was again set in motion, rather than God ceasing the daily Westward motion of the Universe, and angels the longer Eastward motions of Sun and Moon, this would be the very only time in the Bible when a miracle worker adresses a different thing from what needs to be changed.

You could speak of man and leprosy cleaned, but the one is the man getting "saubergewaschen" and the other is the leprosy getting "abgewaschen" so the Gospeller used a pun in the same verb.

The men who think Joshua apparently adressed Sun and Moon, while really commanding Earth, they could argue the other Yehoshua apparently adressed demons while really commanding the functions of a human brain and nothing else. Obviously, that's refuted by some drowning pigs too, but normally, we will assume the miracle worker adresses what needs to have a miraculous change of state or behaviour.

Meaning, Joshua adressed Sun and Moon because it was Sun and Moon that needed to cease moving.

You cannot argue the words to Sun and Moon were his prayer, they must have come after his unquoted prayer, because "sun" and "moon" are not names of God.

Answers from Scripture

Nobody was saying any of this. I think you were typing instead of listening in this section.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline You said, by the way I was reading, not hearing, this library has no headphones, that you don't think it's "proven either way."

I argue it very much is, due to the verse where Joshua makes his miraculous command to Sun and Moon.

10:21 No, we are not told of what he asks for.

We are only told what he says once he's done asking.

They took therefore the stone away. And Jesus lifting up his eyes said: Father, I give thee thanks that thou hast heard me And I knew that thou hearest me always; but because of the people who stand about have I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me When he had said these things, he cried with a loud voice: Lazarus, come forth
[John 11:41-43]

For the other Jesus, the son of Nave or of Nun, we are not told the words that correspond to "Father, I give thee thanks" but only the ones that correspond to "Lazarus, come forth".

"Sun, stand still" = "Lazarus, come forth"

Jesus didn't ask the grave to roll back from around him, he told him to walk out of the grave.

Joshua didn't ask the earth to stop moving, he told Sun and Moon to stop moving.

Answers from Scripture

You are correct that “Sun stand still was spoken as an imperative, not an interrogative, but that changes in no way the rest of the monologue on that issue.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@answersfromscriptureonline My point was not that it wasn't an interrogative.

My point is, that injunction cannot have been the prayer, since you and I and also Joshua would never adress God as "Sun" or as "Moon" ... his predecessor had recently received very strict orders not to bow down to them.

The prayer must have preceded, unquoted.

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10:57 If the Azteks actually had a story about a day lasting two days, their ancestors can't have been in Mexico back then

Sure it isn't a night lasting two nights?

Because a two day long day and a two day long night are delimited in eastern China, on a globe.

12:07 Phenomenology works fine for verse 13, Sun standing still.

Phenomenology doesn't work for verse 12, since it's not a story of what it looked like, but the inspired words of the miracle worker.

14:40 Those factors, the same they will use to talk about "impossibility of Sun orbitting Earth", those factors are under natural laws.

Now, the natural law only states what way the result will go from that factor, or you could make more ones about two interacting factors, but it doesn't state and it cannot state that there are no other factors or that the other factors cannot significantly alter the outcome, or that the other factors that alter the outcome can only come from among those subjected to natural law.

One must realise what natural laws do and don't state.

A current in a wire will obey both Ohm's law for some reason (like thickness and material of the wire) and Ampère's law, but if they interact ... bad example, I suppose, since these two are actually pretty separate. But the two body problem of astronomic orbits involves laws related to gravitation and to inertia, and their interaction, the result being neither exactly what gravitation would produce by itself, nor what inertia would produce by itself.

Neither of the laws state that God and angels can't modify the outcome even more.

Deacon Frederick Bartels Is Wrong (Except on Earth Being a Globe)

Does the Bible Teach a Flat Earth?
Deacon Frederick Bartels | 28 March 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw85zLuNdqM

Based on tons of scientific evidence, the vast majority of people believe the Earth is a sphere.

I would say you are only speaking of educated people in the Western world.

Some Hindus are so anti-Portuguese, they will call Magellan a fraud, I suppose. And that could be the tip of an iceberg.

However, no, it's actually based on tons of GEOGRAPHIC evidence, including the flight between Sydney and Santiago de Chile etc.

Geography isn't a science or an episteme, it's, like history, a historia. I hope you are familiar with the distinction. You can deduce from first principles how bright a light bulb is at so and so many Ohm, with so and so many Ampère and Watt going through, because electromagnetism and related are "cognitio certa per causas" ... you cannot deduce from first principles where Landsend in Cornwall is. That tip of a land could have ended closer inward or closer outward.

the earth is set on pillars.

These are identifiable within the tektonic plates, literally true, without any flat earth.

It can never be moved.

Geocentrism unlike Flat Earth isn't refuted by Geography. Unless you count galactic geographies in Star Wars as documentaries (I have a hunch they are fiction, and so useless as proof of modern cosmology).

It is also true. There are even better proof texts for Geocentrism, than this psalm, like Romans 1 and John 5:17.

But has nothing to do with Flat Earth. (OK, all FE are GC, but at least one can very well be GC and not FE, like St. Thomas and Riccioli).

In fact, the ancient Hebrews had a view of the earth that follows that pattern.

Possibly true. However, this does not constitute the literal sense of the passages. The existence of pillars in tectonic plates and the fixedness of earth suffice, without flatness.

To give a parallel, one can well consider St. John saw a gematria counted in ASCII, like V=86, L=76, A=65, D=68 etc, since God is above time, even if his audience would certainly have imagined something like M=40, N=50, E=5, P=100, O=70, Y=400, A=1 (one can really speak of honest Nerva, if he was the one St. John sent the Apocalypse to, and he made himself the saint's mailman to seven churches despite an apparent designation of himself as 666).

Therefore, King David can well have spoken of pillars in tectonic plates and of fixedness of a globe earth, even if his audience imagined a flat one.

The key element here is that we need to understand what the human authors intended to assert.

No, both to you and to the weasel Ratzinger.

If a thing is at all stated, rather than for instance quoted or hypothesised as a question, the author intended to assert it.

It is also not to the point to ask about "teach science" since it is a moot point whether the questions even belong to science in the ordinary sense, as electromagnetism is a science.

They put down in writing everything God wanted them to write, no more and no less.

Exactly. By the way, dictation theory is not outside Catholic theology, even if it's out of fashion.

The pillars of the earth and its non-movement ... this is a pun by the way, "earth" referring to two different senses of eretz ... are truly part of what God intended to convey.

given the belief some people have that scripture teaches the earth is flat, we have to ask whether God intended to teach the earth is flat as a matter of salvation.

God intended to teach that Earth is fixed, to avoid errors like the one soon to be promoted by Spielberg. [Ironically, the above video runs a commercial for Disclosure Day]

God also intended to teach land plates have pillars and land has four outer corners, so as to make this credible.

The Biblical text never ever stated that the earth is flat, nor anything that even implies it indirectly.

Nor did the authors of scripture intend to make scientific cosmological statements about the shape of the earth or the actual position of the stars in the universe etc.

The four corners are an accurate GEOGRAPHIC descriptor of the shape of the LAND, as opposed to sea.

The four corners are against the Pacific, which fills the other side of the globe.

The fact is the authors of the Old Testament had no concept of modern science or cosmology

You speak of them as of uninspired human writers, who are not above time, nor inspired by the one Who is.

And what a lot of "modern science" referred to in your CCC § 283 is concerned, the MAIN author of the OT, Jesus, said what needs to be said in Mark 10:6, just as He did of divorce and of "gay marriage".

Since God is truth, truth found in the Bible cannot contradict those truths which reason correctly discovers about the universe.

Key word: correctly discovers.