Showing posts with label History With Hilbert. Show all posts
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Sunday, February 9, 2020

Disagreeing with Jack Durand


On Germanic Identity and Religion · Disagreeing with Jack Durand · Two Questions on Quora about Old English

I have read, more or less, also the article by Jack Durand which Hilbert is here answering:

Is "Anglo-Saxon" A Racist Term And Should My Degree Be Banned? (ASNC)
History With Hilbert | 7.II.2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdPK_3J2Ppc


If I'd find one fault with Hilbert, he's a bit too patient with Jack Durand.

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Obviously, one could exchange Anglo-Saxon for Jutes.

How about Jutes and other Non-Roman Kentwares ...

No one would in any language feel any kind of confusion with for instance Jews and think that's racist (Jutar / Judar, exactly one letter difference in Swedish) ...

Seriously, I think Jack Durand could be a WASP and ashamed of it in very unconstructive ways. Like a constructive way would be supporting Spain as better at dealing with First Nations than "Anglo-Saxons" were, which the real Anglo-Saxons were also better when dealing with Celts. Or to support the King of Araucania trying to give some justice to non-white Tierra-Fuegians. Or simply try to weed out attitudes that are actually racist.

But calling the invaders around Horse and Hengist Anglo-Saxons (I misspelled Gengist, would you prefer to refer to Mongols?) and the converts of St. Augustine of Cantwaraburg Anglo-Saxons is NOT one. One could of course also use the term "Old English", but that has at least TWO concurrent usages - older Academia uses it of older Middle English, reserving Middle English for Chaucer and forward, and popular usage uses it of archaic words in English texts, gone out of usage, like I got the question of what "ere" meant in Old English. I obviously corrected that "ere" is just Old Fashioned Modern English, and obviously also sought out that the real Old English for "ere" is "ær".

Do you have older online Bible texts in Anglo-Saxon than the Wessex Gospels?

"Jutes and other Non-Roman Kentwares"

Celts - pre-Roman Kentwares.
Anglo-Saxons - early post-Roman Kentwares.
Norse - later post-Roman, or post-post-Roman Kentwares.

Oh, wait, I would just have included the Norman invasion, yes, ok ... admittedly not a better term.

Or what about BIFA?

British Isles from Artorius?

Or BIFATE - British Isles from Arthur to Edward?

Captures period and region. However, I somehow think, if it is not "racist" that the PC crew might find some other reason to hate it ...

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8:16 In fact, when in France and being sometimes called a "Viking" I tend to get offended for these reasons:

  • 1) I am not a younger son;
  • 2) I am not a pirate, trader or sailor;
  • 3) I am not into the dominant Viking age religion, though I like studying its mythology and where it may have come from.


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21:30 As you reminded me of the article ...

"Possibly the ASNAC department should not exist at all, arguably, alongside the AMES department, privileging the study of certain cultures and societies over others."

I feel a bit unable to comment under it after you actually asked me to use a BuNnyBeaR policy when doing so.

So, in order to study reges Angulsaxonum, presumably he means that one has to have on the same department a study of Industrial Revolution and of Pre-Columbian Americas. Let's take a guess what exact studies would get the upper hand in such a department ... anyone guessing the reges Angulsaxonum? No, it was not me lifting a hand ... I cannot really see any lifted hands, even from Jack Durand ...

Now, I do not really feel like being nice and respectful to a fairly obvious Commie doing a nasty piece of Commie PC-ness.

22:11 "a refusal to take an antiracist stance"

Well, some antiracist stances one should refuse to take.

You might know that Numberphile is associated with the Mathematical department of ... Cambridge. A nice walk for you.

Now, this video of theirs contains the qualifiers "Russian" and "Egyptian" - shouldn't they ban these types of multiplication in order to take an antiracist stance, not on my or your view, but on views like that of Jack Durand:

Russian Multiplication - Numberphile
Numberphile | 4.II.2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ_PP5rqLg0


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23:50 No, I don't forgive the pun "so many Angles" - I relish it!

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31:25 And he doesn't care about Asian and Middle East Studies either (that's what AMES stands for).

Or he subreptitiously wants to swamp ASNaC into AMES.

In Lund, where I studied at Classical Department (Latin, Greek, both of which I did, and Antiquities, culture and archaeology, which I didn't) this department no longer exists, it is united to former Semitic Languages (or at least the Linguistic part is) meaning when it gets its budget, Latin and Greek for the internal budget have to fight with Hebrew, Amharic and Arabic over resources.

Can you care to take a guess what this will mean when a certain type of people interested in Arabic gets in, which I am afraid they would be doing already?

31:46 Now the A in AMES is not for Arabic but for Asian:

Asian and Middle Eastern Studies
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/courses/asian-and-middle-eastern-studies

Monday, June 3, 2019

Hilbert on Swedish Proposed Rune Ban


Is Sweden Banning Runes?
History With Hilbert | 31.V.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHzZCNpVvmc


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2:19 "runes are an alphabet" [plus ensuing parts of his discussion]

Actually, three different ones.

  • 1) Older Rune row, 2:nd C AD, as you mentioned, probably depending on some alphabet from Rhaetia, had 24 letters or runes. (This is where the odal rune comes from, now banned in singled out shape, since symbol for indigenism considered as incitation against ethnic group);
  • 2) in England, there is an extended version of it (used by Tolkien for the map in The Hobbit);
  • 3) Younger Rune row (Scandinavia with other "Viking" countries only), which is Viking age and had only 16 runes.


The now discussed Tyr rune (a T with "slanted roof") is common to all three of them. In older one, it stood for T, in younger, for T and D. But not Thorn and usually not Eth, which would be written Thorn.

I see the English rune row was also used in Frisia, as you mentioned "Anglo-Frisian", I'd say "rune row".

To me, Futhark or Futhork refers to Younger rune row. The other ones don't start with F, U, Th, A/O, R, K.

Banning of Odal Rune in Sweden doesn't concern "letter O," since it is either written with the A/O letter or the U letter in the younger rune row, the one most used by us.

One could imagine banning a certain type of letter O, like the yin and yang symbol ...

I do not think Odal rune is banned in the context of texts written in Older or Anglo-Frisian rune rows.

Using it as abbreviation for example of Olof would be a probable prosecution, and the concerned Olof would be suspected of using "abbreviation" as a lame excuse, unless he was known to be highly pro-immigration. Or at least not highly anti-immigration.

5:29 Gott mit uns - I think this text goes back well before Nazis.

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9:39 Good parallel.

There are Christian texts in the Arabic alphabet.

And Sweden is not likely to ban the Shahada or Allah Akbar as long as Löfvén is PM.

Here you have for instance a Bible in two languages online, Arabic and English:

http://www.copticchurch.net/cgibin/bible/

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14:33 "descended from Odin" (unless the automatic subtitles went wrong).

As a Christian I would actually agree lots of us are descended from Odin and Frey as well as from non-divinised later Ynglings. Like lots of Italians are descended from another false god, Julius Caesar ....

How do you like my theory that Odin is the Yeshu of the Talmud (at least in contexts prior to trial/execution ones, which seemed calqued on Jesus Christ and are incompatible with his dying in Uppsala region)?