Eric Manning's debunk on his channel Testify:
This Terrible Atheist Meme About the Gospels Must Stop
Testify | 16 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYULmDa_NSo
My own:
There is more to the answer than that.
When two friends of mine (well, at least one's a friend) visited NYC, I asked them to take a photo of the Daily Bugle building.
For some reason, they didn't.
Almost seems as if Daily Bugle were a made up institution ...
Meanwhile, Gospels and Acts (etc) mention the Church. Seems to have been documented in other resources too, including Josephus calling them a "tribe" ...
Real stories don't leave just imaginary institutions.
Fake stories either do that or add some bends and flourishes on existing ones. D.D.T. = Direction départementale des Territoires exists. But it never had one Edmond Fouvreaux. (Yes, I'm a fan of Signé Furax). Baker Street preexisted certain stories, but Conan Doyle invented 221B (it later became a real adress).
Fake origin stories don't explain real institutions.
- Alex Yordanov
- @alexyordanov6250
- That's what I am saying. Spiderman has multiple comics with different narratives that don't add up , have no date consistency, have many fictional celeberty characters and places, and many accounts contradicting it's otherwise massive events, as well as being explicitly stated by the writer as fiction and coming from source specifically from fiction writing .
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @alexyordanov6250 "as well as being explicitly stated by the writer as fiction"
Even if it weren't, it would have been taken as fiction by the first known audience (and the only one so far).
- Alex Yordanov
- @hglundahl I was just saying on top of everything. The point is that the Spiderman falacy can be used to disprove Napoleon and is nothing more than a slogan.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @alexyordanov6250 Indeed, on top of everything.
I've seen other disproofs of Napoleon, care to spell out this one?
- Alex Yordanov
- @hglundahl I was saying that you can use this falacy to disprove any historical event , I could simply say , well Napoleon attacked real places, but Spiderman also visited real places.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @alexyordanov6250 True.
The difference is, the original audience of Napoleon seems to have recalled him as a real person, the original audience of Spiderman as fiction.
That difference basically means, Gospels are historic, not fictional, as to basic genre.
This test is obviously not fine enough for divine authority, but it is fine enough for historicity on a basic level.
- Alex Yordanov
- @hglundahl
What do you mean,, Basic level " and what do you mean,,Not fit enough for devine athourity".
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @alexyordanov6250 Basic level = not yet ruling out error or lies. Just ruling out fiction, that's impossible if everyone from the first took it as history.
Not fit enough is not what I said, I said not fine enough.
What is however fine enough is the details of the story. Both to rule out lies and honest mistake and to establish the man who claimed to be God rose.
