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Sunday, May 3, 2026
Conspiracy or Conspiracy Theory?
Fire Actually Saved Notre-Dame
Engineering The Impossible | 2 May 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIuzjsJ5Lhg
So, let me review this.
1) Someone thinks the fire was useful.
2) The police ruled out arson bc no fuel or lighter found.
3) Electricity systems having an accident could never ever be arranged by someone who knows how they work, right?
Saturday, May 2, 2026
I Was Wrong (Which Proves Something Else, Which I Was Right About)
The West Got Hinduism Wrong — And I'm Done Being Quiet
Neo Dharmism | 29 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2eD73ZLMyY
3:37 Hinduism is, by you, tracked to Upanishads, as first big step.
Interesting that you put it earlier than the Gita, which I thought was a part of Mahabharata.
Now, what I've read, Upanishads promote Pantheism: in you, it's Brahman itself which is your atman, and for some reason, what is more potent and knowledgeable than anything somehow enters into intellectual, not just poverty, Christianity admits this to a degree in the Incarnation, but actual error, unless you were never wrong in all of your life, which I find highly improbable as a fact, and highly improbable, you being an intellectual, that you are not aware of this.
Christianity says, God could ask "who touched me" or "my clothes?"
Hinduism seems to say, when I thought the First Christians were Evangelicals, "God" thought so.
6:54 A wave doesn't just depend on the water, it also depends on the sea bottom.
A wave in the mid Pacific is very unlike a wave in the Bay of Biscaya or in a storm in St. Malo.
Now, you my know, some Christians have decided the Ark of Noah was myth. Some even lost Christianity over that. Part of the reason is, the schooner Wyoming was destroyed completely, with loss of lives, in Nantucket Bay.
However, in Nantucket Bay, the water is just in medium 9 m deep.
And the reason this still worked as a refutation to their minds is, they had decided for a non-global Flood, against the obvious reading of the Bible, and in a large regional Flood, the depth would be sth like Nantucket Bay to North Sea. In a global Flood, it would be more like the Pacific.
The wave is in a mathematical and geometrical sense a circle segment. That segment can have the centre above sea bottom, in the Pacific, but it cannot have the centre below sea bottom, in Nantucket Bay. Hence a high wave was shorter, more abrupt, more violent, than a much higher wave than that would be in the Pacific.
Waves say more of the sea bottom than of the ocean. I think the ocean is a very bad metaphor for God.
9:06 The line Ekam sat etc, ... do you think this was from a time when Hindus or Proto-Hindus (whichever the Vedic religion actually was, I'd say Pre-Hindus) were speaking with people of other religions?
I find it likelier it's a kind of Ecumenism than a kind of Pantheism, as per Upanishads.
I find it likely Ecumenism led to Pantheism, either in Upanishads or in Buddhism and later imported by Gaudapada, for instance.
9:06 bis
I looked up, and here is what I found, whole sloka:
ekaṃ sad viprā bahudhā vadanti
agniṃ yamaṃ mātariśvānam āhuḥ.
Truth is one, though the wise describe it in many ways — as Agni, as Yama, and as Mātariśvan.
So, as I misstated it as being about outside religions, I was wrong in my guess.
Not necessarily Pantheism, but at least "unity of all gods" ...
So, if my atman were identic to brahman, why was I wrong?
v Rig Veda 1.164.46
https://www.sanskritica.com/shlokas/rig-1-164-46-ekam-sat
On CSL and Mike Schmitz
Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: On CSL and Mike Schmitz · New blog on the kid: Did C. S. Lewis Publically Attack Catholicism?
“Fr.” Mike Schmitz (Ascension Presents) - False Theology Exposed
vaticancatholic.com | 19 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v33YBiMgVGU
As you called C. S. Lewis not a Christian, which is true of any heretic from a strict p o v, would you mind taking a look at this quote and see if there is any error?
God has infinite attention for each one of us. He doesn't have to take us in the line. You're as much alone with Him as if you were the only thing He'd ever created.
Because, for a non-Christian, he seems to me to have written lots of things edifying to Catholics. Obviously also true of Virgil, so, doesn't prove him a Christian.
9:05 I'm noting that no Pope from Pius VII to Benedict XV overturned the Biblical proof texts for Geocentrism, or tried to.
They allowed discussion of the subject, not totally unlike Pius XII allowing some kind of discussion of the subject of Adam having non-human ancestors.
There is prima facie evidence for Geocentrism, according to Romans 1 that's evidence of a proving nature for God (no, he didn's speak of the flagellum of the bacterium, it hasn't been observed since God created Adam and Eve).
The only thing that could overturn the prima facie evidence for Geocentrism would be conclusive proofs against it, but such would need as a premisse at least a diluted form of Syllabus error 2 (Pius IX).
Friday, May 1, 2026
Are Muslims Talmudic?
Dogs and Beer and a Bad Religion · Muslims Do Have Things to Think Over · Are Muslims Talmudic?
The Talmudic Dilemma: How Jewish Folklore Shaped the Quran
Defending A Lion | 25 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PuRmgN7DU4
Highlight:
in Surah 5:32, it says, "We ordained for the children of Israel." So this is law given by Allah to the Jews. And then it quotes Sanhedrin. It quotes the Talmud. So it says like, hey, this is in our scriptures that we gave to the Jews. And it's quoting something from the Talmud. ... So right away the author of the Quran seems to be mixing up the Torah and the Tallmud with its references. It doesn't seem to fully know the distinguishing difference between actual Torah and the oral Torah the Jews were practicing, preaching, and believing in at the time of Muhammad.
An excellent example of what can happen to someone who verifies things primarily by talking to people.
The Jews that the author of the Quran talked to would not all the time make a distiction between Torah and Talmud, and they even have a tendency to call all of it Torah.
Ergo, the author of the Quran would have heard sth presented as "Torah" and have presumed it was actually in the Pentateuch./HGL
PS, the following item actually is pre-talmudic, I left a comment under the video:
"Abraham conversion by looking at stars, stolen from the Jews."
Could be an actual tradition before Jesus, could go back to Abraham.
Why so? It's already in Josephus. Antiquities, Book I, Chapter 7, first paragraph, reads:
Now Abram, having no son of his own, adopted Lot, his brother Haran's son, and his wife Sarai's brother; and he left the land of Chaldea when he was seventy-five years old, and at the command of God went into Canaan, and therein he dwelt himself, and left it to his posterity. He was a person of great sagacity, both for understanding all things and persuading his hearers, and not mistaken in his opinions; for which reason he began to have higher notions of virtue than others had, and he determined to renew and to change the opinion all men happened then to have concerning God; for he was the first that ventured to publish this notion, That there was but one God, the Creator of the universe; and that, as to other [gods], if they contributed any thing to the happiness of men, that each of them afforded it only according to his appointment, and not by their own power. This his opinion was derived from the irregular phenomena that were visible both at land and sea, as well as those that happen to the sun, and moon, and all the heavenly bodies, thus:—"If [said he] these bodies had power of their own, they would certainly take care of their own regular motions; but since they do not preserve such regularity, they make it plain, that in so far as they co-operate to our advantage, they do it not of their own abilities, but as they are subservient to Him that commands them, to whom alone we ought justly to offer our honor and thanksgiving." For which doctrines, when the Chaldeans, and other people of Mesopotamia, raised a tumult against him, he thought fit to leave that country; and at the command and by the assistance of God, he came and lived in the land of Canaan. And when he was there settled, he built an altar, and performed a sacrifice to God.
Whether it is or isn't Abraham's motif, though I think he had an education as a faithful, from someone in his family, like Sarug lived to when he was fifty (at least in the LXX, except a modern edition) and Thare could have been dying spiritually, i e become an idolater, only when he was 75, the fact it is in Josephus is supporting evidence on this being a current understanding in 1st C Jews, which would mean St. Paul alluded to this (understanding, not necessarily story about Abraham) in Romans 1.
Sunday, April 26, 2026
Palestinian Genetics
Here Are My FULL DNA Test Results* As A PALESTINIAN
Wally Rashid | 25 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97m_keg0OUE
3:28 Arguably it's less about "Roman mixing" than about matches with Jews over the Roman Empire.
The Christian Palestinians are an older population than the Muslim ones, in the same sense that Bosniak Muslims are more recent than Serbs and Croats. Now, the ancestry of Christian Palestinians would, in the 1st C AD, have been Jews and Samarians. Of these, Jews were better at getting around to different places in the Roman Empire.
Christian Palestinians start the day that a Church in Jerusalem is joined by a Church in Samaria. Same Christianity, even if their ancestors a generation earlier would have been Second Temple Jews (not same thing as Rabbinic** ones) or Samarians. Acts 2 and 8.
If you want to know how relations were between Jews and Samarians prior to Jesus, John 4 and John 8 would be helpful. Like Luke 10 and Luke 17.
* Wally Rashid is using the site My True Ancestry. ** Rabbinic Judaism has some roots among Second Temple Pharisees, but is also defined by rejecting Christ and by losing the Temple.
That Galileo Was a Jerk Doesn't Matter (Unless if You're Praying for His Repose), and Didn't Matter as to the Process
The Truth About the Inquisition, Galileo & the Flat Earth Myth | Dr. Thomas Madden | Last Call Ep 11
Matt Fradd | 24 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8qy5pV1u2U
3:45 Four arguments.*
The one he considered most secure was a mistake, but the argument if not the fact is replicated by Magellan.
5:25 "which is true"
You just made the bans of 1616 and renewed because applied to Galileo, 1633, applicable to you.
Besides, you don't believe the Sun is centre of the Universe, you believe it's centre of the Solar System, which is a further departure from classical Christian Cosmology.
Galileo, unlike Bruno, didn't do that, as I recall. He still believed the Universe had an identifiable centre and a periphery in the sphere of the fix stars.
5:36 You're forgetting that in order to not get censored, Copernicus waited to the death bed and even than just stated it as a hypothesis, to make calculations easier, not as a fact about the universe.
6:28 St. Robert Bellarmine actually did have other objections than purely scientific ones.
And I think his proposal to Galileo, if any, was not "look at the sky more carefully, we don't see the Copernican model" but "you know, Tycho and Copernicus give us the same visual effect on the sky, what about Tycho Brahe?"
6:46 I think you are getting this from the Pro-Heliocentric side in 1822.
Father Olivieri could say this kind of things, because noone in Rome could check, the archives were in Paris where Napoleon I had stolen them to.
"Tutti i francesi, sono ladroni?
- Non tutti, mai buona parte"
7:28 Sorry, but he was in fact not free to promote Heliocentrism as science, as physical fact rather than mathematical shorthand, since the theology by Dominicans involved Joshua's miracle and Sun and Moon ceased to move.
Not Earth. Sun and Moon.
Galileo's theological and unacceptable response was "non-overlapping magisteria" ...
8:01 Howeversomuch Galileo may have been a jerk, the Inquisition doesn't give people abjurations and lifelong house arrest for that.
He was given that for doctrine, not character.
And as "Simplicio" took an argument that the Pope, while still a cardinal, had used, it is significant the Pope (who could be insulted) abstained from being among the judges, and his relative, among them, abstained from voting.
The argument, by the way, is this: God could create the world any way He wanted, and God could make the world look anyway He wanted. Now, on some level, this could be considered a sceptic argument, namely if the world looked Heliocentric. But as it looks Geocentric, it's an appeal to God's honesty.
8:26 It doesn't mean just he had to spend time at home, rest of his life.
It means he had to abjure.
The Dialogo is what he was being judged on. It's fiction, not everything said in it is his own view. It's as if Dan Brown would have been given an opportunity to abjure the Bloodline of Jesus theory after writing The da Vinci Code making him vehemently suspect ...
8:33 While his villa was different to a dungeon, like Liparic Islands are different from Siberia, he was denied social life, except with his spiritual caretakers and very close, including a daughter who was a nun.
An author whom Stalin didn't like could go to Siberia and hard work. One whom Mussolini didn't like to Liparic Islands, and a state pension while he was there. Both would be denied normal social interaction with their previous surroundings.**
- Roddy Cavin
- @roddycavin4600
- If Galileo had written anywhere else in Europe at that time belittling the countries monarch and remember Urban viii was an absolute monarch, he would have been at best beheaded or in some states hanged drawn and quartered. I think he got away with it quite well.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @roddycavin4600 You are confusing apples and oranges.
First, the argument by then cardinal Barberini was given in private by the not yet then Pope Urban VIII.
The character Simplicio was not a politically transparent insult to the monarch as such, it was a privately wounding way of dealing with old discussions.
BUT second, there is a juridical difference between trial by the Inquisition and trial for political treason. Galileo was tried for heresy, not for treason or rebellion.
* Aristotle against a Flat Earth. ** Again, it's a punishment, not for being a jerk, but for what he suggested.
Saturday, April 25, 2026
Final Minutes of a Video with Melissa Dogherty and Stephanie Potts
Richard Rohr, Karl Marx, Psychedelics, and Putin. What’s the Connection?
Melissa Dougherty | 17 April 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTNnjGGtav0
Dugin and Putin are in fact right that the katekhon is not the Church.
Simple reason. Acc. to Matthew 28:20, the Church will not be taken out of the way.
Again, I think the katekhon was, specifically in Russia and Austria, taken out of the way in 1918.
Antichrist being with Secular Jews or Antichrist being with Religious Jews, there are arguments for either.
But Putin is not an heir of Nicolas II, he's an heir of a preliminary Antichrist, who had some Jewish heritage, and some Swedish, a certain Vladimir Lenin.
Do Putin and Dugin believe the Millennium is upcoming?
Jesus founded the Palestinian nation post mortem et resurrectionem.
Christian Palestinians are a population since Jerusalem and Samaria belonged to the same Church, Acts 2 and 8.
If you want to retroactively call Him a Palestinian, it's a bit like calling Clovis a Frenchman. But it's not wrong.
He did cross a border when fleeing from Herod, since Judaea at this time was a Protectorate, not a Province.
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