Mitis et humilis corde, month

Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make my heart like unto Thine.

This is what Catholics do in June. Fr. Ripperger gets that right.

God’s TRUE REASON for the Great Flood: GAY MARRIAGE?
Adrian Milag TV | 20 June 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48D5M94eevQ

1:04 Not every man who suffers from same sex attraction is in error about the sinfulness of living out that attraction.

I have a friend, artist, Catholic, self identifies as chaste homosexual, and, well, he states that he has that particular temptation to fight, but he's fighting it.

bosco alinaitwe

@user-zk3me4gs6p

Sin and Chaste cannot live together come on!

Brosephina

@joea.9969

Just like bot everyone with alcoholic tendencies is committing sin, when you give in and get drunk all the time and do harmful things, thats the sin,

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@joea.9969 As I mentioned a while ago* to bosco alinaitwe / @user-zk3me4gs6p, resisting temptation can coexist with chastity.

And being alcoholic can exist with sobriety if you never drink.

As you used the pronoun "you" (not sure whether you meant like French "on" or like French "vous" / Spanish "se" or Spanish "Usted"), I might want to clarify, I have never been either an alcoholic nor a homosexual.

* Note:

the comment seems to have disappeared.

Brosephina

@hglundahl ah I meant “ you” as in, you in general/ everyman, not you personally.
I was just agreeing with this comment in my own way

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@joea.9969 Thank you!

pastor brian

@pastorbri

but every homophobic acts out things of their sin

@joea.9969 chosing to abuse booze is not the same as being born LGBT

Brosephina

@pastorbri we all sin in our own way but we should admit its in fact sinful, not celebrate it something to be proud of like an achievement. Some people are proud of being obese or drug addicts thats not a good thing either.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@pastorbri I doubt if ever anyone was born that way, I think it's always a combination involving sth else.

One special case would be people who think they fit their sex stereotypes horribly ill, partly because of how they were born, but crucially because they grow up in a too gendered context.

Romans 1 states "idolatry" and I think the idolatry of Hercules led (even psychologically) to lots of cases of people growing up homosexual.

I think James V of Scotland (or IV? III?), James VI / I of Scotland / England and Charles I had similar levels of inborn androgynity, but the Medieval, in the least gendered society was hetero, the Calvinist upbrought was predominantly homo, the High Church Anglican was bi, probably predominantly hetero.

3:04 "we have to help people overcome these issues"

Fine, so far.

Distinguo, however.

• when they admit to being homosexual, to actively pursuing it, there are some things you can do to block out their message; you don't just do that because you presume someone is homosexual, not even if a shrink will tell you "sure he is" ...
• and also, the help to different homosexuals (once they agree they are such a thing) may be different, like some guys of that persuasion just need to meet the right girl (who might be lesbian) ... this is what happened with my country-man Svante Pääbo. He's married, and I mean it as in validly, and both he and his wife thought they were exclusively homosexual before they met each other. No specific therapy and no time of chastity needed.

6:43 "asking for their healing and the grace to live chaste lives"

Please reserve that to people who have admitted to being homosexual, and have stated they are not trying to get a normal marriage, if as much. Some of them should probably meet someone of the opposite sex.

If someone who has on the contrary stated being heterosexual, and has stated seeking marriage, is simply suspected of being homosexual, and you pray that prayer, and also socially machinate to keep such a someone celibate, and perhaps poor so he's forced to be celibate, then you are the guys fulfilling "forbidding to marry" ... we know I Tim 4:3 Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving by the faithful, and by them that have known the truth. ... cannot refer to a general ban on marriage, since the times before Harmageddon will be strikingly like those before the Flood. Matthew 28:37—39 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.

So, I Tim 4:3 must refer to forbidding specific people (who have not volunteered for it) to marry.

That said, I think Our Lord used coded language. Vampyrism, cannibalism, gay marriage, forced perversion "marriages" ... but Our Lord probably didn't want to use so crude words.

8:12 "the Church has always encouraged for people struggling with this particular issue"

Since the time of Paul VI?

In 1568, St. Pius V actually did mention a category of homosexuals who had to live chastely in solitude, but that's about people kicked out of priesthood or subdiaconate or monasteries, after they were already obliged to abstain from marriage.

I do not think there is any rule forbidding the Svante Pääbo solution. From before Paul VI, or Anti-Pope Montini, that is. If there is, bring forth the evidence. The phrase "homosexuals are called to live chaste lives" occurs first time over in his public writings. Rephrase it "a sodomite repenting must do penance in abstaining from attempting marriage" and try to find support from that prior to 61 years ago. If you can.

And I obviously mean from Rome, not from Pobodonostsev, even if I think there were reasons to excommunicate Leo Tolstoy. We are not bound by the customs of the Russian Orthodox, since they are in Schism.

9:57 That some Catholic psychologists exist who do a good job is entirely possible.

But there are also psychologists who look for signs of evils that aren't there, and some of them might be of the Catholic profession.

If you are praying for someone to find a psychologist rather than a wife, given he's male, obviously, you would possibly be doing a I Tim 4:3 thing. Especially as constantly misconstruing someone the way that shrinks do take some of the attitude described in previous verse.

Neither Gay, Nor Gay Friendly

First a warning - this channel is associated with Alpha & Omega ministries. Heavily un-Catholic. This does not preclude the channel owner from sometimes making good stuff — like this video:

Patrick Bet David CONFRONTS Graham Stephen on LGBT!
Fight For Truth, 23 Sept. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPYjb5V8rj4

Vivat Austria (at least back in my time).

A compulsory subject (in normal government run schools) was Catechism.

Your parents (or sometimes single parent) choses whether you take Catholic or Calvinist Catechism (Lutheran Catechism wasn't offered that school and my mother chose Catholic over Calvinist), or presumably Jewish and by now Muslim as well, but one or other catechism you must have.

As I was partly transbullied simply for wearing long hair (fan of Samson back then), I highly doubt there was any LBGTQ stuff being taught even in higher grades than mine.

2:51 You were influenced into being a realtor ...

Wonderful.

Chesterton would have laughed out loud ... he was highly aware of the links between sodomy and the taking of interest (confusion between the fertile and the infertile, "transfertility" if you like).

Not sure if Graham does take interest, but I suppose many do (with martgages), or are involved when people who can't pay interests are forced to sell houses ...

5:32 I am now pausing the video, simply because another video caught my eye.

"25 % of gay people were groomed"

I would say sth like:
25 % (roughly) were groomed by LGBTQ friendly people
75 % (roughly) were groomed by ultra-machism (and gender typicality on the other side too) denying them self confidence as their own sex and meant to attract the other one.

Presuming of course that "25 %" stat was correct.

Romans 1
23 And they changed the glory of the incorruptible God into the likeness of the image of a corruptible man, and of birds, and of fourfooted beasts, and of creeping things. 24 Wherefore God gave them up to the desires of their heart, unto uncleanness, to dishonour their own bodies among themselves.

What exact idolatry are we talking of here?

The first thing mentioned is (actually in Greco-Roman myth) "corruptible man", and it stands to reason Hercules worship could very well be meant.

Take a look at Argonautica, how the author treats the relation between Hercules and Iolaus, and remember that Hercules was supposed to be both worshipped and a role model for real men.

No, Argonautica was not my own field of study when I studied Greek, never came that far, but the man who rent me a room those years did a thesis on Apollonius of Rhodes and how he treated Eros. As he was very disdainful of Christianity, any sort, and particularly Catholicism, perhaps, not very well regarded by his older non-apostate relatives, you can imagine what he would tease me with. I didn't like it, I was not groomed. Still hetero to this day.

Your point about LGBTQ is excellent, and it is also the inverse of some "LGBTQ positive" Atheists' view on giving Christian education. A war is coming on, and an essay collection I just printed was called the French Equivalent to "innocent diversions in the doldrums waiting for Armageddon"

7:18 Zero percent were born with an innate preference for sodomy over the correct sexual act (correct within marriage or relatively correct in sins outside marriage that are not against nature).

Some were born less masculine than what the people raising them considered masculine, and became gay because of lack of confidence.
Some were born with hormonal mix-ups, making dating the opposite sex less easy for them.
The closest to being "born gay" I can imagine is being born with that, with high homoaffaction, with oversexuality. But even these three together don't necessitate becoming gay. If you add a propensity for risk-taking, the likelihood of someone becoming gay is higher, because usually doing so is taking a risk, even subjectively and socially, not just for eternity - but even the propensity of taking risks can be used in other ways.
And some were a) unlucky in a dating game that's set up against them in coeducation and delayed marriage, b) groomed into taking homosexuality as a "solution" ... perhaps because LBGTQ circles offer them a dating strategy.

7:29 no, no, no ... normal people (including normal homosexuals, i e homosexuals who aren't like Caligula or Nero in everyday reactions) are socially attracted to both sexes in different ways outside the sexual question.

The ones who become gay or bi have been taught to sexualise situations which he shouldn't do so with. Or have put up too little fight when hypersexuality forces them to sexualise over the brink so to speak ...

A very interesting take on how forbidding some to abstain from meat can be connected to forbidding them to marry, if you recall 1 Tim 4 ... since abstinence from meat is one of the medicines against hypersexualising.

The LBGTQ groomers also have an interest in forbidding marriage, since marriage would give a normal and licit outlet for enhanced sexual drives.

And they do, and England just raised marital age from 16 to 18 ... as it already was in Australia, while Canada is on the fence, a court or a parent can allow from 16 - which is already too high.

8:46 "get your kids out of public schools as fast as you possibly can"

As a preliminary move, I refuse to go back to Sweden even if right now I am homeless in Paris.

In Sweden, taking children out of public schools is highly illegal by now.

pastor brian

@pastorbri

yes stop kids being educated

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

or miseducated @pastorbri - I know what Swedish schools tried to do to me ... and what they did, when I didn't comply.

pastor brian

@pastorbri

@hglundahl yes catholic schools did this

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

No @pastorbri - there were no Catholic schools in Sweden, by now there is just one, but it didn't exist back then.

Municipal schools in Sweden are very secular, and so was (in a somewhat more mellow way, from the adult side, but not totally) the half state owned, half private SSHL. It very obviously cannot have been a Catholic school, when HMtK went there as a boy, since he is constitutionally required to be a Lutheran.

Stop making up stories about me from your incomplete information and wild fantasy and generally, when you lose an argument against me, stop saying to yourself "Hans Georg Lundahl must be very indoctrinated" just to hide from yourself the fact that you lost an argument.