Climate Clown for Palestine? Or Does "Doom Goblin" Have a Point?

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: Those Critics Are Missing a Distinction · Climate Clown for Palestine? Or Does "Doom Goblin" Have a Point? · New blog on the kid: The Man Who Launched Greta

This man has misanalysed Greta about the village / coal mine arrests before. The German police didn't have any orders to obstruct reporting, they only had orders to obstruct the human obstructions to a coal mine. This man who thinks in terms of Brasilian police misunderstood it. Now he's at it again, but this time he's at least curious.

Greta Thunberg caught in her BIGGEST LIE ever
The Body Language Guy | 7 Sept. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbZ__5xeemg

2:46 Have you heard of the nuclear waste problem?

There was a time when nuclear power was more of an environmental issue than carbon emissions, I'm kind of from that era and kind of suspect carbon scares have been fabricated to repromote nuclear power (except in Iran, of course).

Plus, obviously, if you have nuclear plants in a country, and someone else wants to damage it, they are an easy target with high potential for damage.

4:20 Living longer and healthier?

More like, if you lived long in earlier ages, you were healthy, but if you do now, it happens you are a product of pharmaceutic dependencies.

Fewer wars? Perhaps fewer micro-wars and feuds, but more prolonged wars and conclicts running and rerunning into wars.

If we look to war deaths in the European population, in % it's basically an escalation from 1200's to 1900's, except that the 1600's (with the Thirty Years' War) stands out as the worst prior to the 1900's and the two World Wars.

6:31 Have you heard of storage of nuclear waste, again?

The formation that makes up Yucca Mountain was created by several large eruptions from a caldera volcano and is composed of alternating layers of ignimbrite (welded tuff), non-welded tuff, and semi-welded tuff. The volcanic units have been tilted along fault lines, thus forming the current ridge line called Yucca Mountain. In addition to these faults, Yucca Mountain is criss-crossed by fractures, many of which formed when the volcanic units cooled.

Is it just a coincidence that Shoshone living there have browner skin than typical NY state dwellers, where no one is storing nuke waste?

7:00 AI is if anything another argument against Nuclear Power.

7:26 everyone and everything follows money and power interests ... except Greta, famously didn't.

She refused to look at the money and power interests that would be upset by her activism. And as a bonus won some onto her side.

8:00 Greta actually isn't using Palestine as propaganda for Environmentalism.

She's badgered about the topic, and she answers. But she's not making a point about it herself.

How about that brilliant analysis of a girl pretended to be seen threatening with a knife and hatchet, when she's actually retreating?* Why are your analytic skills lower on this issue?

9:17 Greta has said "it has to do with climate justice" but how many others have used that language, when they are not being asked?

Rima Hassan? Thiago Avila? Liam Cunningham?

The point is, you don't wipe terrorists out by wiping out civilians. And it doesn't matter if you point guns and fire or block food access, either way you are wiping out civilians. The clowns, as you put it, have shown, beyond the shadow of a doubt, and confirmed by doctors working in Gaza, low access to food is NOT just an accident, but an actual goal of Israel.

There was a child who was getting a prothesis with Madleen, Israelis have so far not clarified the child actually got it after they arrested Greta in international waters, which is an act of piracy.

You call them clowns. "Be a clown, be a clown, all the world loves a clown" ... except those who for some reason haven't. Perhaps Netanyahu rewatched "It" a few times too often.

9:25 "The people who are financing her?"

Registered charities, whether you mean "Fridays for the Future" or "Freedom Flotilla" ...

If Red Cross goes to a rescue mission to a disaster struck country in Africa, those financing them are generally people who believe in that charity.

You don't ask "did Soros finance the Red Cross" even though Soros on occasion was a donor. You accept that the Red Cross functions, mainly, because of people like you and me spending some coffee change on donating to the Red Cross a few times a year. Plus some richer people want to make tax deductions. Well, Fridays for the Future, the charity that she helped to open up a few years ago, and Freedom Flotilla, the one she's working for currently, are also run as publically registered charities.

9:53 A clear example of "environmental racism" would be "we can't stock nuclear waste where white people live in hoards, but if the country is poor and inhabited by brown skinned people, we can use economic leverage to stock nuclear waste in their country" ... now, this is not the Palestinian case, what about hearing her sentence out?

10:17 How about this scenario. People in Europe access the same electrity. People in the Third World access the same nuclear waste ... I think that kind of sounds racist.

10:46 Yeah, what about countries which are invested in precisely because they produce things without expensive emission cleaning?

Oh, no one can emit those quantities of sulphur in Europe? The filters that would catch it are expensive and augment the production cost by ten to twenty percent? Well, there are countries that can't afford to sit on their high horses when it comes to enforcing regulations. Like because they are endebted ...

I would call that solution environmentally racist. Pushing the pollution to poorer people with fewer regulations because they live in the Global South and suffer Neo-Colonialism.

Get children working in a dangerous unhealthy mine in Europe? You go to prison. Make someone do it in Africa? Georgia Meloni just pointed out that France is earning money that way.

11:17 She basically said "if all we care about is a clean environment in First World Countries, that's a luxury and privilege" ... or in other words, man made starvation is worse than man made pollution (if the levels are anywhere like supposed to be safe).

11:38 Climate welfare: people in Europe and (most states of) the US and Canada have a clean environment.
Climate justice: we don't buy that by pushing the pollution on poorer countries which can't afford to regulate.
Broader justice: we don't want poorer people to suffer manmade starvation either.

The only point where she was unclear was she didn't verbally distinguish climate justice from broader justice as two different concepts.

Apart from that, she has basically repeated the Swedish King Oscar II saying "not free trade, but fair trade" ... I bet she bought choclate and her parents coffee from Max Havelaar before Fridays for the Future.

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* It exactly parallels my own analysis of the white mother who confronted a Somali child who had taken her own child's toy without asking. The video of her repeating the N word is a video with her retreating with her own baby, and being harrassed by a man with a phone with a camera, not a video of her chasing someone else's child.