Tuesday, September 30, 2025

Young Marriages


He Says Child Marriages Should Be Brought Back!?! | Daniel Haqiqatjou
Kim Iversen | 23 April 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMc9uW0AUxo


I) Some facts of biology.

Puberty for both sexes can be gone through by age 9 or by age 18. About 5 % each direction.

90 % of girls go through puberty while ages 11, 12, 13.
90 % of boys while ages 13, 14, 15.

The medium age is 12 years and some months (3 months?) for girls, and somewhat about 14 for boys.

II) A fact of medicine.

Courtesy of my mother's memory of her professor in gynaecology (that professor was an Orthodox Jew, if you want to detect bias, he was still professor of gynaecology at the Med school of the University of Vienna). Filtered by my own memory.

A first child birth is safest between ages 17 and 25.

B U T ... a first child birth is safer at 13 than at 30. Why? The elasticity of the hips prior to full pre-birth width counts for more than the width, and the hips stiffen by 30, so, an old maid getting her first child at 30 has hips that are still somewhat too narrow, but on top of that way too stiff.

I have since heard that the statistics of danger are by now inversed, but that's mainly because countries with late first childbirth are also countries with good medical systems and countries with early first childbirth also are poorer countries with worse medical systems. If we took medical care out of the equation, 13 would still be safer than 30.

III) Fact of canon law.

12 years old for girls, 14 for boys.

Note, has been hightened to 14 for girls and 16 for boys around 1917. But at the same time, the infamy by infamy of law for engaging in sexual activity with any being under an age is still after 1917 too, set at 14 / 12.

IV) Fact of older Christian-Muslim polemics.

I see Christians like St. Thomas taking issue with polygamy (including of Mohammed), but not with the age of Aisha.

In fact, I see some very rare cases in which European nobility, insofar as the birth and marriage years are correct, have imitated Muslims in having girls juridically marry at age 9. Obviously before the Renaissance, a time when the Catholic Church starts taking the 14 / 12 limit more seriously. A Polish noble got an angry letter from the Pope for allowing his daughter to marry:

  • before she was 11 and 1/2
  • without dispensation from the Pope
  • to a non-Catholic (a Protestant).


I think the limit was introduced after John Lackland married off his daughter to a Scottish king when she was just 11 and the marriage was a disaster.

Joan of England (22 July 1210 – 4 March 1238), was Queen of Alba (Scotland) from 1221 until her death as the wife of Alexander II.


V) Fact about social non-acceptance. Of minor (but not pre-puberty) marriages.

Dates from about 100 years ago, from what is termed the Progressive Era. Also saw the implementation of Eugenics before Hitler and Nordic Social Democrats latched on to it.

VI) Fact about girls these days.

I was the teacher of a ninth grade girl who had been through abortion at age 13. Probably more common in the country-side, like where I was a teacher, than in big cities or especially posh parts of them, like Videdal where I was a pupil, but still.

If she had been legally able to marry the father, perhaps she wouldn't have aborted, and perhaps would have been a happier girl.

VII) Facts on percentages.

"Quel âge aviez-vous la première fois que vous avez eu un rapport sexuel complet ?"
https://fr.statista.com/statistiques/528232/jeunes-premier-rapport-sexuel-france-par-age/


10% younger than 15.
12% 15
18% 16
24% 17
17 % 18
8% 19
10% 20 or older
1% did not comment

The statistics are from 16 Oct. 2013.

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