Friday, January 2, 2026

She's So Eager to Laugh at Jesus, She Destroys the OT and Second Temple Judaism


Christians Think This Is Deep. Jews Laugh.
Rebecca Bar Sef | 2 Jan. 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIulq4QPjmU


5:56 You are wrong. What happens in Ruth is stated in Deuteronomy 25:9.

With the modification, she doesn't spit in the face, because she actually wants the less close relative, Boaz.

And in Genesis 38, Onan is not killed for refusing the levirate, he's killed for the contraceptive act. Levirate is in fact not a legal obligation before Moses. With Onan, it had been a kind of moral obligation when pretending to obey his father, but he could have said "I don't want her if I'll make a child for my dead brother" and God wouldn't have killed him, Judah would have found someone else.

6:41 First of all, there was not actually a change, other than when Moses made levirate an obligation and also gave a way out (which Boaz and the other kinsman didn't recall all details of).

In Genesis 38 levirate was not a universal obligation, it was just a question of what Judah had ordered his son Onan.

Second, the thing is, the point is that her infertility (or that of seven brothers) makes for repeated levirates, the Sadducees didn't state it was a contemporary case.

The reason they took this ridiculous setup is pretty much that some Pharisees already had an answer if she had been divorced and remarried (to the one who didn't divorce her presumably) and if she had been widowed after already having children (not sure, but probably to the first man). They were wrong, but not wrong to believe in the Resurrection, and Jesus gives the real solution.

7:20 Since He is eternally God before in time becoming Man, He was able to provide an answer, even with no actual previous revelation on the topic.

8:07 No, the argument is not the least absurd, since God says "I am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" and not "I was etc"

The two statements God made of Himself, and Jesus is the same person Who made them, as Word, He is the one Who spoke, only fit together if Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are still somehow alive and especially if that partial life (a k a blessed afterlife) will be restored to full life.

You can guess people were laughing, but that means you opt out of answering the argument. So did they, but not because they saw nothing in it.

I think everyone who argued with Jesus when He and they were adults already knew since He was twelve, He could back up any argumentative challenge He made.

Mighty
@Mighty-ue7bt
Also Moses and Elijah appeared to be speaking to Jesus in the mountain of Transfiguration. Clearly Moses and Elijah are still living

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@hglundahl
@Mighty-ue7bt Elias is.

Moses came up from the dead.


8:17 If Abraham was a spirit, already that defeats the general idea of Sadducees.

Here is a passage on how Abraham was at this time alive:

And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom And he cried, and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazarus evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented

And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father's house, for I have five brethren That he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torments And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance

And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead [Luke 16:22-31]


In case you think Jesus "was making it all up" out of nowhere, here is a passage on how Jeremias was alive on a previous occasion:

So he armed every one of them, not with defence of shield and spear, but with very good speeches and exhortations, and told them a dream worthy to be believed, whereby he rejoiced them all Now the vision was in this manner: Onias who had been high priest, a good and virtuous man, modest in his looks, gentle in his manners, and graceful in his speech, and who from a child was exercised in virtues, holding up his hands, prayed for all the people of the Jews After this there appeared also another man, admirable for age, and glory, and environed with great beauty and majesty Then Onias answering, said: This is a lover of his brethren, and of the people of Israel: this is he that prayeth much for the people, and for all the holy city, Jeremias the prophet of God Whereupon Jeremias stretched forth his right hand, and gave to Judas a sword of gold, saying

Take this holy sword a gift from God, wherewith thou shalt overthrow the adversaries of my people Israel [2 Machabees 15:11-16]


In other words, Jesus is agreeing with the author of II Maccabees. And with events that had occurred under the resistance against Nicanor.

But this kind of spirit existence is not the end. Here:

For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and in the last day I shall rise out of the earth And I shall be clothed again with my skin, and in my flesh I will see my God [Job 19:25-26]


I shall be clothed again with my skin, in my flesh I will see my God.

The reason Jesus didn't quote II Macc. 15 or Job 19 is, Sadducees disputed the canonicity of them. Hence "God of the living" / "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob".

8:47 OK, the argument about the wife of seven brothers is "ridiculous", and that's why Jesus brought the argument back to basics.

God of Who? Living. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Nevertheless, your admission in the text added in edit "later Jews started to argue about it, because they lost their minds" is also an admission you do not represent the continuity of Judaism. You represent a kind of rehash of Sadducee thought, after millennia that it was a nono even to Jews. Like the "13 words" of your Rambam, bad enough in denying the Messias had already come, but at least are better than you.

8:55 But who pretends all religious truth has to be immediately for the betterment of society?

Not the God of the living. Not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Not the God-Man Who rebuked the Sadducees.

9:04 Once I die, I lose control.

However, this is what Paul said, recall the man who had studied under Gamaliel?

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment: [Hebrews 9:27]


In other words, the one Who does control what happens takes into account how you acted before you die.

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