Uncreated Grace vs Created Grace Explained by Fr. Stephen De Young
Pseudo-Stephen | 2 March 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjgu0VBDHvE
"Divine energies":
Unless I leave you for the Father, the Paraclete will not come to ye. This Trinity is of distinct persons, united in substance, indivisible, indifferenta in virtue and power and majesty. Beyond this we believe no nature to be divine, whether angels whether spirits, whether of some virtue*** that would be believed to be God.
My third footnote to my translation of the topical creed of Toledo I is:
***virtue=energeia? Was Gregory Palamas a Priscillianist in a way?
So, it's possible that the very idea of "uncreated energies" is condemned in advance by Toledo I, which is not just a regional council, but one specifically approved by Pope St. Leo I.
God Himself in action
So far no problem doctrinally, you may have steered clear of Priscillianism.
We don't come to know God in His essence
Hmm ... when we go to Heaven, or when He comes to judgement day:
Dearly beloved, we are now the sons of God; and it hath not yet appeared what we shall be. We know, that, when he shall appear, we shall be like to him: because we shall see him as he is.
[1 John 3:2]
It seems that God's very essence will become the object of a spiritual vision.
how the Beatific Vision works with the bodily resurrection
What would be the problem?
Grace becomes an intermediary between God and Creation
Sounds like a fairly fake resumé ...
1) Sanctifying grace is "a created participation in God's Trinitarian inner life" ... what's created isn't the essence of grace, but how we participate.
2) Actual graces are also God in action, but more like God prompting a sinner or a saint, one without or one with, sanctifying grace, to the good works by which he or others approach God.
Because it isn't God Himself
It isn't God in His eternal being, as it is without respect to creation. It's our participation in the life of ... God Himself.
It has to be created
Well, tell me one Catholic who says the inner life of the Trinity is created? I don't know any.
Or tell me one Orthodox who says my own participation in it, as it is on Earth, before final glory, is eternal? I don't know any.
Baarlam Palamas
Now, Baarlam was on the Eastern side of this schism during the conflict. He only became "a Latin" after it.
It is quantifiable
[confer]
And Jesus advanced in wisdom, and age, and grace with God and men
[Luke 2:52]
προκόπτω
1. to drive forward (as if by beating)
2. (figuratively and intransitively) to advance
3. (in amount) to grow
4. (in time) to be well along
Seems there is some kind of quantifiable to it.
God is working in your life
Is it meritorious to give Him the occasion by taking the pilgrimage?
There is grace deposited in that stone
Is that what Gnadenort means? Can you give a reference?
My first hit with this word for a theology behind this word is the 1989 to 1999 apparition of Queen of Peace to the priest (who became such during the apparitions) France Spelic, Kuruscek, says:
Der Friede des Herzens ist eine Frucht der Bekehrung und der Versöhnung mit Gott. "Das wird ein Gnadenort sein, ein Ort der Heilung von seelischen Krankheiten und Wunden. Wer an diesem Ort gläubig zu meinem und meines Sohnes Herzen seine Zuflucht nimmt, der wird geheilt werden und teilhaben am Frieden, den nur der Himmel geben kann."
This will be a Place of Grace, a Place of Healing from the soul's and body's wounds. Who on this place with faith takes his refuge to my heart and that of my Son (Mary speaking) will be healed and participate in the peace that only Heaven can give.
[Kuruscek message was quoted]
Receives a portion of that grace
Not what I have learned from five Roman Catholic Catechisms, none of which the modernis "CCC" ... I'd like a reference, other than for instance Baarlam or for instance Seraphim's of Sarov treatise against the Latins.
Which has the effect of forgiving a certain amount of temporal guilt
Oh, sorry, you are mangling together our theology of grace with our theology of partial indulgences. Your bad.
A certain amount of merit towards salvation
A certain increase (see Luke 2:52!) of sanctifying grace, which is our salvation, is God living in us, what increases is how involved God is in this particular person. (Who is created).
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