Intellectual Fraud, Antichristian: John Davis

Christianity is the Deadliest Religion of History (Here are the Statistics!)*
The Recovering Catholic | 3 Aug. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WrYP1UkndQ

Antipope Bergoglio had so much undue respect for Anticatholics, that him lapping up Anticatholic propaganda is no big news.

"Wiped out" ...

Nahuatl 1.7 million in Mexico, smaller number of speakers among Nahua immigrant communities in the United States (2020 census)
It's relative language Nawat has only 500 indigenous speakers, + 3000 learners, but they are of the ethnicity Pipil, 11,100, as well as Nicaraos, 20,000 +.

Quiché (language of the Mayas)
1.1 million (2019 census) ... and probably some more in the other country (spoken both in Mexico and Guatemala, the census was arguably only in one of the countries).

Aymara
1.7 million (2007–2014) (probably different censuses, official language in more than one country)

Quechuan languages (yes, more than one)
7.2 million

Plus, if you want to refer to the drastic lowering of American indigenous populations the century following the Conquista, most of it was due to smallpox, and that was not deliberately spread by contaminated blankets, like US Americans later did, it's just that Spaniards didn't realise it was much deadlier for the indigenous who had a weaker immune system.

To compare, the biggest language North of Rio Grande, number 24 of Indigenous languages, is Navajo with 170,000 speakers. Second biggest North of Rio Grande, number 36 overall, is Cree, 96,000.

Number 42 is the third largest, but non-English settlers, Greenlandic had Danes as colonisers. 46 overall is 4th largest North of Rio Grande, Ojibwe, also known as Chippewa. So, the 46 largest native languages of the Americas involve one in Denmark, three in Anglo countries, and 42 where Spain was the coloniser. And the single largest, Guaraní, also where Portugal was coloniser. Or became, by a border revision. If you have seen the film Mission, you will know that the transfer from Spain to the Portuguese realm of Pombal, Enlightened philosopher and PM, was bad news for Guaraní speakers back then.

2:28 Inter caetera certainly gave permission to conquer, but NOT to enslave. It concerned the division of the new discoveries.

Dum diversas certainly gave the Portuguese permission to enslave kingdoms and duchies of Africa. More precisely, to reduce to perpetual slavery. This meant giving lifetime, and pretty certainly didn't mean for the whole population, but for Muslim kings and dukes, the Pope didn't bother to use Arabic titles, and staff of their armies, judges and administrations, which had been engaged in slave trade against Christian captives, with no remorse.

Now, if someone gets lifetime in the US, he usually doesn't marry, if he does, the children don't stay with him in prison. If someone got perpetual slavery back then, he was probably allowed to keep one of the wives he had, or, if unmarried, to marry. The children also became slaves, not because of the papal sentence, but because of the principle that who's born to slave parents is a slave. Normally, among Europeans before Slavery was abolished (already the case in 1452, most countries), the children who hadn't committed crimes themselves or their children would be pretty likely to be freed, sooner or later, depending on the generosity of the master. Unfortunately, as racial differences make for less individualised perception, this didn't happen quite that much with Black Slaves of the Portuguese. But that wasn't the plan of Pope Nicholas V. He only considered that a kadi who had helped to give Christian slaves extra whippings or castration because of refusal to become Muslims had deserved to be himself a slave. Obviously, the Portuguese were not content with the slaves they could obtain this fashion, they also bought slaves from African kingdoms which they didn't think they should then and there conquer. Which Dum Diversas had not authorised.

So, the papacy basically shrugged the shoulders about Portuguese misapplication of Dum diversas, but when Spain conquered, newer bulls made sure to NOT make the same mistake with "Indians."

The Recovering Catholic

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So you're justifying the past?

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@therecoveringcatholic Obviously yes.

Of the papacy. Not totally of Portugal, different story.

2:53 Missionary enforcement hardly resulted in all that much death. On the Catholic side, that is.

If you take the one in Mexico, the many deaths in the taking of Tenochtitlan were due to the conquering army being composed by very few Spaniards and vastly more numerous indigenous allies, who weren't Christians yet.

Disease was not the fault of Christianity. Both Christianity and disease came with Spaniards, but for Spaniards, smallpox wasn't normally deadly. It hadn't been so for the Africans meeting the Portuguese either (less sure of the Guanches).

The Recovering Catholic

The spread of Catholicism brought the disease which killed many but what I stated in this video was accurate the numbers were not about to see they were about slaughters.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@therecoveringcatholic I'm actually not into the part of the video where you are citing slaughters.

The taking of Tenochtitlán was exceptionally huge as a slaughter and mainly due to not yet Christian allies of the Spaniards.

3:26 "America was formed by people running away from Catholicism"

Where so? Latin America was formed by Catholics. Québec and the original Louisiane were formed by Catholics. Spanish and Portuguese came as Catholics. English didn't come as Catholics, but neither did they have Catholics persecuting them in the mother country.

In 1848, some immigrants came who had failed rebellions against Catholic régimes, but arguably as many if not more who had failed rebellions against Protestant régimes. A Sicilian fleeing then would flee from a Catholic régime in Sicily. But a Saxon fleeing then would flee from a Lutheran or already Evangelisch régime in Saxony (Karl May was born that year, btw). And Irish arriving such times was pretty likely a Catholic fleeing a manmade starvation enforced by Protestants.

The Mayflower were people who were not running away from Roman Catholicism, but from High Church Anglicanism, and to the Netherlands. However, they left the Netherlands, no longer running away, to be alone among themselves, to avoid assimilation to Dutch Protestants whom they considered generally too worldly.

3:55 Walking Purchase, 1737. That's when the Lenape were starting to lose ground. John and Thomas Penn were responsible, they had not fled to avoid persecution, they were the heirs of William Penn. And William Penn had been decent to the Lenape, allowing the two populations to live together, well, not same villages or blocks, but basically side by side.

Not sure how many Germans who would be fleeing from Germany persecuted. Since 1648, a man persecuted for his religion simply had to leave to a place where his religion was in power. Perhaps a few Anabaptists.

Also not sure how many Huguenots would be fleeing to that area. But they weren't fleeing from the Inquisition, but from the French King. It wasn't the Church that wanted them converted or exiled, it was a people who recalled the Wars of Religion. Precisely as even more the two weeks from St. Bartholomew's Day in 1572. Coligny was a war criminal, who had hanged peasants for defending priest and sacrament.

4:15 100,000s tortured or executed as heretics.

Well, those who were just tortured but not executed would vastly outnumber those who were executed.

If it had been executed, I just did the maths for 250,000 by 700 years = 357 per year. In actual fact, most of the time, far fewer. So, I think the total is bogus too.

4:18 "burned as witches, early Protestants"

Well, up to Salem, they were far likelier to burn real or supposed witches than Catholics were, even if the Catholics had a temporary headstart.

4:22 Gnostics, Cathars ... well, back in their day, burnings would excede 357 per day.

Take a fair look at what they were teaching and how they were practising it before you bemoan them as "innocent victims" ...

Scientists, even Galileo.

The single scientist who got in real trouble but didn't get burned was Galileo. The main target in 1616 had been the priest Foscarini, who had the sense not to insist. Bruno was burned, 1600, by the same Inquisitor who handled Foscarini and Galileo, St. Robert Bellarmine ... but Bruno was more burned for things resembling Hinduism than for "science" (which Heliocentrism isn't anyway, unless you add "falsely so called").

4:30 WHAT?

"You 4:23 know, in 1986, the Catholic Church 4:26 forgave Galileo for the world not being 4:29 flat"

You are either a liar or a nincompoop.

The one revision of Galileo I'm aware of is 1992, when Antipope Wojtyla said Galileo was right. If there had been any kind of revision in 1986, prior to that, under the same Antipope, I'm not aware of that. But the issue was never flat or round. The Catholic Church never taught the earth was flat. She did teach, and uphold against Galileo, that Geocentrism is true. Geocentrism is not synonymous to the world being flat, it's synonymous to Earth being the centre of the world. Immobile, while the visible parts of the Universe revolve around us each day.

As to "not being flat" ... the author of Inter caetera was highly well aware of it. The trial of Galileo didn't spark mass refugee crises from Italy or Spain, but it did become an added argument when Huguenots going away from France wanted to be received as refugees highly in danger ... and when descendants of the Huguenots claimed (informal) privilege in Belfast and in Berlin.

4:46 You are promoting a dishonesty as big as pretending it took the Church centuries to decide that women had souls.

The real story behind that one (heavily promoted by Freemasons and their dupes) is that on a council locally in France someone was asking "can a woman be called 'homo' " because in his way of speaking Latin, just as in many men's way of speaking English, and the gloss "man" the gloss had started to take on the meaning of "adult male" ... the answer was "yes, Jesus is "filius hominis" because He is "filius Mariae" but Mary was a woman, so, yes, a woman can be called 'homo' ".

They changed the council from local to Nicaea because, either it was the only one they knew of, or, for the deception they wanted, a local one wouldn't do, it had to be central authority or equivalent.

The Church has never taught that women don't have souls, or aren't human or that the earth is flat.

4:58 No, it was not heresy to say the world was round.

You are either lying or repeating a lie. The "deconstruction" community seems to be a very sectarian one, whichever it is.

The Recovering Catholic

bye bye

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@therecoveringcatholic Feel free to blind yourself ...

5:12 If you look up Matthew 28:16 to 20, it was pretty clear that the true Church would always be along.

That pretty much rules out any "Church" or split rich slew of "churches" that wasn't even around in 1500.

5:25 Which Inquisition?

Ah, the Spanish one. Nordisk Familjebok, a Swedish 19th C. reference work says 341 000 prosecuted and 31 000 killed.

However, more recent research seems to disagree.

García Cárcel estimates that the total number prosecuted by the Inquisition throughout its history was approximately 150,000; applying the percentages of executions that appeared in the trials of 1560–1700—about 2%—the approximate total would be about 3,000 put to death. Nevertheless, some authors consider that the toll may have been higher, keeping in mind the data provided by Dedieu and García Cárcel for the tribunals of Toledo and Valencia, respectively, and estimate between 3,000 and 5,000 were executed.[202] Other authors disagree and estimate a max death toll between 1% and 5%, (depending on the time span used) combining all the processes the inquisition carried, both religious and non-religious ones.[153][203] In either case, this is significantly lower than the number of people executed exclusively for witchcraft in other parts of Europe during about the same time span as the Spanish Inquisition (estimated at c. 40,000–60,000).[202]

202) Data for executions for witchcraft: Levack, Brian P. (199). The Witch-Hunt in Early Modern Europe (2nd ed.). London and New York: Longman. ISBN 978-0582080690. OCLC 30154582. And see Witch trials in Early Modern Europe for more detail.

But we were looking for ... According to García Cárcel, one of the most active courts—the court of Valencia—employed the death penalty in 40% of cases before 1530, but later that percentage dropped to 3%

García Cárcel (1976), p. 39, García Cárcel, Ricardo (1976). Orígenes de la Inquisición Española. El Tribunal de Valencia, 1478–1530. Barcelona.

Classed as a revisionist book, but probably correct. Now, "before 1530" doesn't mean 1234 to 1530. It means 1478 to 1530. 52 years.

1234 was the Inquisition in South France, a different story.

A council in Tours in 1164, presided over by Pope Alexander III, ordered the confiscation of a heretic's goods. Of 5,400 people interrogated in Toulouse between 1245 and 1246, 184 received penitential yellow crosses (used to mark repentant Cathars), 23 were imprisoned for life, and none were sent to the stake.

Pegg, Mark Gregory (2001). The Corruption of Angels: The Great Inquisition of 1245–1246. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press. p. 126. ISBN 0-691-00656-3.

5:32 The Crusades death toll estimated 1 to 3 million ...

John Shertzer Hittell said "1 million" ... he lived December 25, 1825 – March 8, 1901.
Fredric Wertham said "1 million" and was a shrink. Probably just repeated John Shertzer Hittell. Unless the Fredric Wertham who did that estimate was a different person altogether. If so, I can't find him, I just found the shrink who claimed comic books damaged people.
Charles Mackay said "2 millions" ... Europeans. In other words, killed by Muslims. Scottish poet, 27 March 1814 – 24 December 1889.
Matthew White "3 millions" He was a librarian and wrote The Great Big Book of Horrible Things.

Now, where did I get these names?

Death Estimates for the Crusades, a blogpost by Andrew Holt, Ph.D. – History, Religion, and Foreign Affairs. He gave a caveat though:

Provided below are various death estimates for the crusades to the east roughly covering the period from 1095 to 1291. The extreme range of figures, from one million to nine million, suggests the futility of trying to pin down such a figure with any precision. Modern historians of the crusades tend not to make or trust such estimates, as they are skeptical of the ability of anyone to count the deaths of participants over such long periods of time (nearly 200 years) with any precision and weary of the methodological problems this entails.[1] Nevertheless, such figures are often cited by the media or online and these are likely their sources (presented from lowest to highest).

5:49 The "doctrine of discovery" is a hugely different thing in 19th C US and in Inter caetera.

In inter caetera the only things that could be seized were pagan lands refusing the arrival of missionaries.

And it didn't allow for seizing private property, just the state functions.

6:10 "they starved them out"

Who, whom, when?

It's not a description of the constant practise of colonial Spain or Portugal.

6:33 Whatever George W. Bush believed, about God speaking to him, he was no Catholic.

He attended Yale University from 1964 to 1968, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in history. During this time, he was a cheerleader and a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon, serving as the president of the fraternity during his senior year. Bush became a member of the Skull and Bones society as a senior.

He is listed as Methodist and Episcopalian. And as Converts to Methodism from Anglicanism.

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6:48 "over a million deaths" ... unlike the one of the Crusades, actually a death toll of opponents to the Western side.

8:37 Kicking people off their lands ... Prussians replacing Poles, Cromwell shouting "to Hell of Connaught" and Andrew Jackson doing to Indians (I think Cherokee) what Zionists with less success have tried to do to Palestinians ... I hear you. None of the examples is Catholic, though.

10:43 No, He did not say to go back before there was religion.

He said He was the One Who Is.

11:00 Jesus did not in His mortal life meet Paul. True.

Those who were His disciples however did accept Paul had seen Him for real. And them ... yes, He did leave them in command.

And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven [Matthew 16:19]

That's making Peter second in command. What did Peter say about Paul?

And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction [2 Peter 3:15-16]

[Going back a little]

7:09 100 to 150 million deaths ... over 1000 years.

Communism, 90 million deaths, not counting Maoism, over the time 1917 to 1990.

But unlike Communism, I don't think that total is true for Christianity.

[On again.]

11:30 It doesn't occur to you that accusationism and counting Protestant atrocities along with Catholic ones as "of Christianity" creates more division and hate.

Did you get your total from "The Great Big Book of Horrible Things"?

12:14 Oh ... you "help people every day who have been traumatised by Christianity" ...

A psychiatric or psychotherapeutic fraud, in other words. Perhaps not too unrelated to the ones who have been pestering me basically half of my online time (varies and for the total may be exaggerated) plus telling people around me I'm deconstructing, when I'm definitely not, in order to lessen interest for my Christian writings, because, if I were deconstructing, I would sooner or later regret those words.

Nope. Not regretting them. And it's c. 20 years people of this brand have made this, that or the other excuse for basically blocking me from readers other than themselves and so from an income.

* Retranslating from an unfortunately automatically translated title, which in French reads: Le christianisme est la religion la plus meurtrière de l'histoire (voici les statistiques !) Well, no, as I've shown.