Thursday, August 7, 2025

I think an actual Inquisitor actually represents the Catholic Church


In other words the layman's club called Catholic Truth (not sure if affiliated to Sheed and Ward's Catholic truth guild) here did some overkill. It's true he wasn't executed for translating the Bible, in Vilvoorde an English Bible was practically irrelevant, English wasn't as big a language yet, but he had a Church judge prior to being delivered to "the secular arm" (i e the State), so, the video got a like because Kate is pretty, not because Bryan Mercier is highly competent.


Did the Catholic Church Really Kill Tyndale?
Catholic Truth | 7 Aug. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shFrkLLcB-0


1:24 Henry VIII never was a Protestant. He was in communion with Lutherans, but he never was one himself. He died as a Catholic believer (on most of not all accounts) in Schism against the Pope.

While he was the one opposing Tyndale's translation, Tyndale was actually burned by the Spanish Inquisition in the Netherlands, in Vilvoorde, modern Belgium, for an actual crime against the faith. He misinterpreted Romans 3. The Tyndale society carefully preserves and has translated the text of Jacobus Latomus, and his, I think third, refutation of Tyndale.* Had Tyndale recanted, he could have lived.

Vince Giangiacomo
Verge63
Henry VIII burned Tyndale for denouncing his divorce

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@hglundahl
@Verge63 No ... even a quick wikipedia check would find you he was burned in Vilvoorde, where Henry VIII had absolutely no authority and where his divorce was not a very well looked on event.

Charles V had absolutely no motive to take revenge on a man for dissing the divorce of Henry VIII, of which his relative Catherine of Aragon was a victim.


2:20 His Inquisitor actually gave him opportunity to continue translation efforts. I think it's Trent Horn I have that from.

According to CSL (who considered him a saint, a martyr, paradoxically along with St. Thomas More, in his Latin correspondence with an Italian priest, I think), Douay Rheims actually took hints from Tyndale, no less than King James took some from Douay Rheims. The most egregious mistranslation in KJV, Matthew 6:7, is not from the Tyndale Bible, but from the Geneva Bible via the Bishops' Bible. Calvin had a bee in the bonnet against repetitive prayers.

4:52 It would be fairer to say that Charles V took a tip from Henry VIII, and had him arrested.

James Latomus was his judge, and he was an Inquisitor in full communion with Rome. I know, technically it isn't the Inquisitor who pronounces the death penalty, he functions as a coroner, a judge of enquiry finding guilty or not guilty, while a judge of the state pronounces the death penalty after he was found guilty.

The real irony is when some Protestants who believe in Lordship Salvation uphold Tyndale, since his heresy specifically was a free grace message, a total denial of Lordship Salvation.

Obviously, Lordship Salvation looks differently in Catholics and those Evangelicals who believe it, but nonetheless ...

Note:

* My bad, actually first of the three. I cite it in this article, in a fact box below an intro with bold:

Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: A Good Video on Inquisition, with Some Quibbles of Mine
https://assortedretorts.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-good-video-on-inquisition-with-some.html


The Tyndale Society still has a page with Latomus' text:

Jacob Latomus His Three Books of Confutations Against William Tyndale
https://web.archive.org/web/20080517104730/http://www.tyndale.org/Reformation/1/latomus1.html

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