Hitler or Lenin - Who Was Worse?

I have not yet seen the actual video by Jimmy Akin:

What Was Adolph Hitler's Religion? - Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World
15 mars 2019 | Jimmy Akin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU1AG3hlG0M

I objected, initially, to the description, and this dialogue ensued with some delay:

Hans-Georg Lundahl

"Adolf Hitler may have been the most sinister figure of the 20th century."

I'd think Lenin might be that?

Jimmy Akin

The term "sinister" was used precisely because it has a subjective element and would not exclude consideration of individuals such as Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@Jimmy Akin I was not speaking of "sinister" as objectionable, I was speaking of "most" so.

In other words, I think, while Hitler was bad, Lenin was worse.

Sparky

Hitler’s stated intentions and ideology were probably the most sinister, even though communism objectively caused (and continues to cause) far more death and suffering. What makes socialism so much more dangerous and insidious is that it is sugar coated with noble ideals and good intentions like equality, rationality and standing up for the little guy.

To give Lenin credit he was an idealist and actually believed communism is great and is the way of the future. And back in his day there were no examples of what a horrible idea it is in practice. The communists who came after him like Stalin were power hungry thugs that were cynical and in it for money and power.

T Z

Pelosi, Hillary, Kamala, Obama, Biden...pretty sinister successors.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@Sparky Get a grip. Look at the history of Tambov, back in precisely his days.

"The communists who came after him like Stalin"

Stalin was part of Lenin's government:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#In_Lenin's_government

"To give Lenin credit he was an idealist and actually believed communism is great and is the way of the future."

Exact same words could without absurdity be stated about Hitler. One difference : Hitler targetted mainly non-German ethnics. Gipsies, Jews, people with a German and a Black parent. To a Russian, Communism would involve targetting mainly his own people, just different classes. To a Jew in Russia, it would have been like a kind of Jewish National Socialism.

@Sparky "sugar coated with noble ideals and good intentions like equality, rationality and standing up for the little guy."

Like these were lacking in stated intentions of National Socialism?

Or like Communism was any closer to actually fulfilling it?

Equality Commie version : peasants of Tambov are killed under Lenin, because they are private proprietors, Kulaks, who are not solidaric enough.

Equality NS version : from a certain size on, in an enterprise the executive dines with the workers. He has a special room where he can exceptionally dine with guests, business partners, this special room is also open for syndical proceedings for workers.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

0:50 in video, everyone knows that Adolf Hitler is the most sinister person of the 20th C.

No, as said, Lenin was worse.

H 72 070 02
I 73 140 05
T 84 220 09
L 76 290 15
E 69 350 24
R 82 430 26 = 456, add 160 for lower case = 616

What about Iljitj Uljanov (Swedish spelling, he had Swedish-German heritage)

I 73 070 03
U 85 150 08
L 76 220 14
J 74 290 18
A 65 350 23
N 78 420 31
O 79 490 40
V 86 570 46 = 616 all in upper case

And his first name, as a Pole hears the genitive or accusative?

W 87 080 07
L 76 150 13
A 65 210 18
D 68 270 26
I 73 340 29
M 77 410 36
I 73 480 39
R 82 560 41
A 65 620 46 = 666, also all in upper case, and no such value for Hitler, as far as I know (101 for A is not a serious taker, since no such correspondence between letters and numbers is in regular use, it's not Greek, it's not Hebrew and it's not ASCII).

A bit later on, an "ideology of war and racism and hatred" - what about an ideology of revolution, classism and hatred?