The Apocalypse: The Mark of the Beast, Revelation, and the Orthodox Church
Theoria | 1 April 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcHcdOGh9Lc
You are confusing pre-millennialism with "scripture taken literally whereever possible" ..
Pre-Millennialism may be refuted by cuius regni non erit finis, or it may not (in pre-millennialism, presumably the end of the thousand years is an interruption, not an end, of Christ's rule over earth).
But Biblical literalism (which is not the same thing as rejecting the allegoric sense) is not refuted by qui locutus est per prophetas.
Taking the mark of the beast is primarily becoming complicit in a conspiracy of evil, but it can also involve taking up a kind of badge. If keeping God's commandments on forehead and right hand means meditating and acting on God's law, and nevertheless Jews add tephilim, so also, Antichrist's followers could add something visible to the opposite. It would be somewhat difficult to deny customers service or merchandise on its absence if it were purely spiritual. Therefore, I think it will or has involved this.
Given medical professionals swear by Apollo, and the five cases of Apollo in Classic Attic and Koiné add up to 2666, I'd not want medical attributes on my face or hands (like masks or gloves) or a medical attestation given in a cell-phone held, usually, in the right hand.
4:57 While there may no doubt be numerological symbolism, a certain man is said to be identified by gematria. Involving that precise number.
5:09 I would say that chapter 20 starts in AD 33 (as one usually cites the year of Our Lord's crufixion).
It is highly possible that more things are concurrent rather than follow each other chronologically, for instance the fifth seal martyrs, I believe began also with AD 33 or 34 when St. Stephen was killed.
There is a dispute whether 3 1/2 years of Apocalypse 11 precede or ran parallel with those of Antichrist.
There may be disputes on how far on into action the harlot "falls" and what this fall means ... whatever that is, it is some community containing real faithful, like the Neo-Babylonian Empire at a point mentioned by Jeremias and Isaias contained real Jews. So, it will look externally and even doctrinally somewhat closely like the real Church. If it's a movement endorsed by Her, well, it's probably not Fascism, because that ended too soon (modern anti-immigrationism is a different matter).
5:18 Yeah, lets.
Babylonian languages Sumerian and Akkadian were still studied around the time when St. John was on Patmos. If we suppose a "times" sign is roughly rectangular, 12X12,000 looks roughly like a fish. 144,000 looks like four corners ... an item also mentioned in Apoc. 7.
To me this means, the four corners are points outside which you don't need anything like spaceships, but on the contrary fishing boats. I identify them as Alaska, Siberia, SW Australia, Cape Horn.
Speaking of spaceships, in Babylonian numerals, a spaceship / rocket and a syringe looks like 666.
5:31 Let's take the text literally, if we can, shall we:
And I heard the number of them that were signed, an hundred forty-four thousand were signed, of every tribe of the children of Israel
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 7:4]
Presumably, this is not "every tribe" as in Samarians or Lost Tribes, but "every tribe" as in refugees from Assyria coming to Jerusalem, so, it refers to Jews, and the signing is the Baptism and Confirmation of them, as they convert. And not the total of conversions, but a specific endtimes conversion.
These are they who were not defiled with women: for they are virgins. These follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, the firstfruits to God and to the Lamb
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 14:4]
We celebrate lots fewer monks than that in the Martyrology, so, it is possible this is the total of monks who went to heaven directly, because of monastic virtues. It's also possible each of these monk saints is the heavenly "sponsor" for one of the converts.
6:36 I will not say St. Andrew was wrong, he is a Catholic saint too, but the totality of the Church would seem to be mentioned after the 144,000 in words like:
After this I saw a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne, and in sight of the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands And they cried with a loud voice, saying: Salvation to our God, who sitteth upon the throne, and to the Lamb
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 7:9-10]
7:14 My issue with Darby is:
Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air, and so shall we be always with the Lord
[1 Thessalonians 4:16]
This seems to imply that the raptured ones don't leave people behind, but are left behind after persecutions have made the rest martyrs or apostates.
In other words, praying seriously to be raptured would involve praying to live through those terrible 3 1/2 years.
7:35 Well, Tim LaHaye was certainly NOT instructive on how to get the gematria of a name.
Nicolae Jetty Carpathia doesn't add up to 666 in ASCII, see here:
C 67
A 65 120 12
R 82 200 14
P 80 280 14
A 65 340 19
T 84 420 23
H 72 490 25
I 73 560 28
A 65 620 33 = 653
Let's try an Albam on it, since an Albam of uneven number of letters will displace by a non-zero since uneven multiple of 13.
ABCDEFGHIJKLM
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ
CP 80
AN 78 150
RE 69 210 17
PC 67 270 24
AN 78 340 32
TG 71 410 33
HU 85 490 38
IV 86 570 44
AN 78 640 52 = 692, displaced by 39 upwards, which is 3*13, not by 1*13.
Nope, the Beast won't be named Carpathia. Or at least that name will not be the one he's recognised by.
8:15 If the thousand years started in AD 33, it was rectified, Palestinians being Christian Jews and Christian Samaritans of the First Century, plus descendants.
The Catholic Palestinian is formally an Israelite by being Catholic, materially an Israelite by descending from First Century Jews.
9:12 I would say Apocalypse 11 gives a hint on Geopolitics.
Jerusalem is at that point, and this seems to concur with recent events, "spiritually Sodom and Egypt" ... in Jerusalem it is easier to say in public you are "gay" than saying you support Palestinians against the oppression.
I expect, Henoch and Elijah are likely to turn up when Greta and Rima stop. Or are stopped.
10:36 You forget that 8 denotes completion of a cycle, and so 888 denotes a perfect completion. The perfect 8th Day of Creation.
However, you also have a very straightforward gematria on IHCOYC which gives 888 in Greek.
I 010
H 008 018
C 200 218
O 070 288
Y 400 688
C 200 888
[tried to add:]
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. An end-times expecting Catholic is an 8th Day Adventist.
11:56 How does 1260 refer to the factors of the 666 triangle?
12:47 People chose to:
- get vaccinated
- with a vaccine which, so far all versions on the market, had the virus cultivated from human fetal cells obtained from an abortion (not a necessity for all vaccinations, one could cultivate on renal or liver cells from beasts or on human tumour cells, plus vaccinations against bacteria don't even need that, just a petri dish with sugars ... sth which won't cultivate a virus)
- and show up with a vaccination status on their cell phone (CELLPHONE adds up to 666) in order to get into some shops or access some services
- and to discriminate against people who were suddenly viewed as callous because they refused to.
All of above, except the first (like vaccinating against the plague, yersinia gets cultivated on a petri dish, older vaccination against small pox, liver cells from bovines were the support for viruses) are morally incriminating.
13:00 The reign of the Church of Christ in heaven over events that still involve souls to be saved is a literal time period, and 1000 years could by now be the literal medium regnal term of a saint.
2025 - 34 = 1991 (St. Stephen)
2025 - 2016 = 9 (Sister Clare Crockett)
(1991 + 9) / 2 = 1000
13:15 Or, 1000 years = time between each saint's ascent into Heaven and return to their bodies, while their Lord returns to judge.
In that case, 1000 could be the medium length, very literally.
14:40 On the individual level, it is conditional.
On the collective level, it is perpetual and indefectible. Deuteronomy 28 has "if you will" and Matthew 28 has "I will be with you" ... the New Israel is there to the end of time (also a good reason against poor John Nelson Darby).
16:15 Dito for Catholics.
[On liturgy and Apocalypse]
18:18 Would you mind pointing to a Church Father (including but not limited to Popes) or a (Pope or) Church Council which endorses what "we are supposed to take away from it" on your view?
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