Pope Leo Said Something BASED About IMMIGRATION???
Scholastic Answers | 15.X.2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFBnV0HoO_g
11:33 With all respect to Nick Fuentes, do you think AAS 1943 disproves Mussolini's feminist motivation for war in Ethiopia?
The Rota had applications from Ethiopia for annulments of marriages conducted under duress, in reference to the Ethiopian custom of bride rapine, and the Rota concluded that force could not be proven, i e the custom didn't work the way Italians imagined, girls were actually free to reject a suitor who had kidnapped them, it was just very frowned on and could cost them other marriage opportunities.
20:20 Videos on what ICE agents have done exist and the man you consider Pope is fluent in American English.
22:57 In LA ... should US or CA patriotism prime?
A Latino immigrant is a stranger to a man from NYC. But to a man from LA, he may be what a Canadian or Irishman is in NYC.
23:30 A citizen in LA has a duty of obedience to both Newsom and Trump.
Between them, it would seem that Trump has misjudged the case.
1) A man (actually a Latino citizen from LA) thought that 8 times as fast deportations were needed.
2) In a part of what has happened so far, it seems Trump is going twice as fast as Biden, and obviously it's already hurting.
One can hardly claim the girl who sang El pendón estrellado was not a patriot. It is true that CA has English as official language. But California Proposition 63 was voted into law as late as 1986.
- Michael Felix
- @b00g3rs21
- It's not obedience to Newsom or Trump, it's obedience to the law.
I don't understand what you mean by Trump has "misjudged the case".
You provide no reasoning for why you think "the girl who sang El pendón estrellado was not a patriot."
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @b00g3rs21 There is a very good case to be made that ICE is in constant violation of the law or was a month or two ago. Perhaps the situation calmed down since.
If someone crosses the border without the paper work in order first, there are two ways of obeying the law, namely deportation or allowing the paper work to be done retroactively. In some cases ICE agents came after people who were just that day going to get the Green card.
I did not say that she was not a patriot. I said "One can hardly say that" etc.
She sang that on some stadium (forget which exact sport) in specific support of Latino migrants. As a Latino citizen from LA and a patriot. In other words, patriots come in pro-immigration flavours too.
- Michael Felix
- @hglundahl You passively state there is a case to be made, if there's a case make it, don't wave your hands to some illusory abstract as though it's concrete. If there was a valid case of ICE violating the law, you can rest assured it DEFINITELY would have been brought.
You're conflating legal immigration with illegal entry, in general Americans are pro immigration, but not illegal entry.
- Jack
- @CatholicismRules
- “Allowing the paper work to be done retroactively.”
If someone is driving a semi-truck, I don’t care if they were going to get licensed later that day or later that hour. Someone needs to get them off the road.
If someone breaks the law to enter the country illegally, I don’t care when they were planning on getting their paperwork, especially because that just incentivizes even more illegal immigration/invasion.
Do you want people driving semi-trucks in expectation of maybe someday getting their license? Or people practicing medicine because they’re in undergrad, hoping to go to med school and residency one day?
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @CatholicismRules The licence is not simply a permission, it's a permission contingent on learning certain things.
A man who has been in the US for ten years without a green card very arguably knows more about what to do and what not to do than a man who got his green card one month ago but arrived today.
Your parallel totally breaks down.
There are things you need to know before entering on US American citizenship, like the difference between a state and the union, and each US citizen being dual, like in the old times you were a citizen of Pompeii and of Rome or of Liechtenstein and Holy Roman Empire. There were people who had bothered to go through that process, and who were deported by ICE just the day when being sworn in by the mayor or whereever (mayor would make sense, but could be my bad memory) as citizens.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @b00g3rs21 "You're conflating legal immigration with illegal entry,"
You are conflating illegal entry will illegal activity once entered.
ICE has targetted people who have paid taxes for years.
"if there's a case make it"
I was going to refer to c. 5 or 10 videos about ICE brutality, but I can mention simple facts of detainment without due process. It's admitted.
And no, due process doesn't apply just to people who are citizens or legal residents of the US, by the fact of walking the streets of LA you are subject to the jurisdictions of California and of the Union. Just as I, a citizen of Sweden, by being in Paris am subject to the laws of France. I mention this bec. of one of the bad excuses made about due process not applying.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @CatholicismRules "If someone is driving a semi-truck, I don’t care if they were going to get licensed later that day or later that hour. Someone needs to get them off the road."
You are even wrong on semi-trucks.
If someone is planned to get his licence later that day, he has already learned all he needs to be on the road, and he could exceedingly well be on his way to the driving school, as a prerequisite for getting his licence there.
Driving schools don't allow pupils to drive with things on the road before they have mastered certain skills on simulators or on safe "road stretches" off the road system. And they very certainly don't allow pupils to get their licence weeks or months ahead of doing that stuff.
24:20 Clermont Ferrant. Deus vult (phrase as such debated). Were Crusaders profaning the authority of Pope Urban II?
24:20 bis. Germany. You know when. Were people distributing Mit brennender Sorge profaning the authority of Pius XI?
29:37* Notably, employers (and landlords) have no right to do what landlords in Ireland did to tenants during those years 1847 to 1853.
"No, potatoes were on the contract, wheat wasn't ...."
Wheat being at that point the thing that could keep them from starving to death. Potatoes being for the moment out.
33:08 Verbal quibble. "Underexaggerate" .... I suppose you meant "underemphasise" ...
Meanwhile, on immigration. The man you call Pope Leo has said deportations as ongoing are off limits. Is the one rational objective to have all illegally entering out of the borders, or could one achieve some reasonable goals by opening up ghost towns and hoping for voluntary resettling, with special perks to illegal immigrants and to homeless?
Like if many ghost towns are in the Mid West, far from Rio Grande, a Latino who choses to resettle there is not very suspect of going back and forth across the border with illegal substances for one thing.
Could some goals be achieved by making regularisation of employments more easy? There are two sides to this. You don't want a Latino immigrant to steal jobs from workers who receive the legal pay and perks. Some leftists don't want Latinos kicked out who work cheap for them (like a Lutheran "episcopissa" except that word actually meant a bishop's wife in the old church). Don't kick them out. Don't keep them underpaid. Get them registered for social rights (like pension payments and so on). Also has the upside that an immigrant worker who achieves stability is less likely to take to crime for the sake of finally getting some decent income.
Meanwhile, Latinos, but not immigrants. Mexico sent help to Texas, and now Mexico is suffering. Has the US offered to return the favour?
34:09 As you may know, that "profession of faith" is from 1990. I converted in 1988.**
37:19 When it comes to deportations (as opposed to simple rejections at the border) in this mass application, if you think Leo is Pope or Francis was Pope ... why oppose what they say, rather than work around it.
Can I bring up music history? The Church banned secular musicians who performed on streets from using cadences used in Church music, and as these were typically in Doric, Frygian, Mixolydian, Lydian, Plagal or Authentic, secular musicians came up with using way more Aeolic and Ionic, also known as ... Minor and Major. Can you say secular music lost from obedience?
* He had praised Rerum Novarum.
** I made a different profession of faith. "Whatever the Holy Catholic Church Believeth, Teaches and Proclaims to be Revealed by God, that I Believe and Confess."
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