Views on the Exodus

After presenting some 8 views, David A. Falk considered his "dance card" was full.

The Dance Card of Exodus Matches
Ancient Egypt and the Bible | 22 Sept. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9NX1w5tN8

13:23 No, it isn't full.

While I have some doubts in possible favour* of Amenhotep II, what I have so far held is ...

1) Biblical chronology for the Christmas Day martyrology reading poses Exodus in 1510 BC (or 1511 ... anyway, the reading says Jesus was born 1510 after the Exodus).
2) The pharao of the Exodus would be 12th or 13th dynasty. Having Sesostris III as the child killing pharao who died when Moses was newly born and Moses himself as Amenemhet IV (who has a cenotaph) is a thing I take from an article by David Down, Searching for Moses, featured 2006 on the blog of CMI after being paper published in 2001 in Journal of Creation 15(1):53–57, April 2001.
3) I take the carbon date for Sesostris coffin (80 years before the Exodus) to be explained by 97.033 pmC, and the carbon date for Jericho's fall to be explained by 99.049 pmC in the atmosphere.
4) I didn't use to have a carbon date for the Exodus itself, but it dawned on me, some of the plagues could have involved volcanic matters from Santorini, meaning 1511 BC carbon dates as 1609 BC, hence 98.822 pmC.

Meanwhile, the SHORT chronology, Ramses, is considered perfectly Biblical by Jews. Why? Well, check the shortening of the "intertestamental era" to fit the weeks of Daniel to Bar Kokhba.

I obviously reject this view, to a very high degree, it presupposes a rejection of actual Biblical chronology between Daniel and Our Lord.

Ancient Egypt and the Bible

@ancientegyptandthebible

That's so unhistorical I don't even know where to start. The date of Senwosret III is nowhere near the fall (any fall) of the city of Jericho. Downs is not a reliable source. He is another Velikovsky crank.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@ancientegyptandthebible "That's so unhistorical I don't even know where to start."

As in Egyptian chronicles are even for the Second Intermediate period a good clue of chronology? I'm taking "unhistorical" as you take it on the side of historic sources.

Unlike Bourbon France which dated in Anno Domini, Egypt had a new epoch with each new pharao. There was no way to check if he lengthened or shortened the reign of a predecessor to honour or dishonour him.

"The date of Senwosret III is nowhere near the fall (any fall) of the city of Jericho."

For Jericho, we only have a carbon date.

The coffin is carbon dated to 1839 BC, raw date. Jericho to 1550. That's 300 years or rather 291, if we take the carbon dates at face value.

If however during this time carbon 14 rose from 97.033 pmC to 99.049 pmC in the atmosphere, this means that the extra years go down from 250 to just 80. (Appr., I'm using carbon 14 calculator instead of doing full calculation on the calculator).

What was your point again?

"Downs is not a reliable source."

Was Amenemhet IV succeeded by a person who could be his sister? Was he coregent with his (supposed) father Amenemhet III? Is his tomb a cenotaph? Is all of this period less well documented than the New Kingdom?

If the correct answer (which you know better than I, so I'm asking you) is yes, and I'd be surprised but open if you said no, I think that Downs has a point in argument and has thusly been a sufficient reliable source for my purposes.

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* Supposing you find it favourable to be the pharao of Exodus ... it kind of pretty much isn't.