Judaism Made By Rome?

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Christianity Made in Rome? -Rabbi Tovia Singer
Tovia Singer | 20 Febr. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhTrHrz_5LY

1:40 Come on.

IN the Gospel, the Temple, which is collaborating closely with Rome, that's why the Court of the Gentiles was a bazaar both in the time when Jesus did the first cleansing, and again when he did the second cleansing, is the main culprit. Once you realise how much the temple was then collaborating with the Romans, its main guilt doesn't become a complete exoneration of the Romans, it's just that Pilate left it to his Jews to decide. Hence the Temple makes the first move. By the way, those arresting Jesus must have been a not very well trained Temple guard. Had they been Roman soldiers, St. Peter would have been dead meat before his sword could touch the ear of Malchus, so, yes, the Temple did the first move.

Imagine a Mafia boss, and imagine he has a harlot. The real husband of the harlot turns up, tries to forgive his wife, tries to get her back. She ends up giving him up to be killed.

If the Mafia boss took no initiative, but totally left it to "his darling" to decide the matter, while being just a little bit discouraging about her getting back to hubby, does that exonerate him? No.

Let's be clear that from the year when Jesus starts to preach to the year of when the Apocalypse was written, Rome was ruled by a set of Mafia bosses, worse than Caesar and Augustus and worse than Nerva and follows up, dealing very roughly with critics. In the year I mentioned, Tiberius had as protégé Sejanus, Sejanus also had a protégé, namely Pilate. So, Pilate was intimidating, provocative when he dared to, demur when it would cost him too much, but while Christians have often over the last century argued at this point "he couldn't afford an uprising" (that's crediting Tiberius with lots of peace love, lots of hatred of corruption), I think there is something else at work. He had personally "laboured" or "motivated" or whatever those in charge of the Temple. It was a matter of personal pride for him to see the priests could be mature enough to take the right decision, instead of for instance declaring:

"Yeshua seems to mean what he said, he said it twice -- sacrifice market is anywhere in Jerusalem, the animal is clean even if you buy it with Roman coins -- Court of the Gentiles is where Godfearing Gentiles can pray, since they cannot go into the Temple itself."

Declaring that after He had both been hailed like King Manasseh (this could have been compatible with Him replacing Herod, on popular demand, and ruling as a vassal of Rome, like Manasseh ruled as a vassal of Babylon, but Pilate did not necessarily know this), would certainly have displeased Pilate. But he didn't want to take the move. The temple did.

How about you get out of the harlot?

By the way, if you become Catholic, you might end up not identifying nationally as a "Jew" but as an "Ashkenaz Marrano" or "Israelite" or whatever. In the years just before the smoke mixed fog was clearing out in Rome, St. John, declared of those then maligning Christians, Jesus had told Him "they are not Jews" ... about a decade later when he wrote the Gospel, he however did refer to the enemies of Jesus as "the Jews" in the narrator voice. But he narrated a Jesus who used "the Jews" in a very different way.

Synoptics : Priests and Scribes
St. John : the Jews

Synoptics : Pharisees and Sadducees
St. John : the Jews

Synoptics : the crowd
St. John : the Jews

Synoptics, Jesus in St. John : the Jews
St. John, narrator : makes no mention except allowing Jesus to do so.

2:30 St. John, the last gospeller, was arguably a Cohen (and probably not son of Zebedee, the identification of the Gospeller and the martyred brother of the martyr James of Zebedee comes from St. Irenaeus, the most accessible for the West about Asia Minor, but he had left it after being ordained at just age 16).

He was writing to an audience which had full access to Matthew, Mark, Luke already. He was denying nothing pertinent to Pilate's responsibility. He was however also accepting how the Sanhedrin of Jamnia had reserved the vocable "Jews" for rejecters of Jesus. So, He applied the word "Jews" for all the groups, including that crowd before Pilate, who came to become constitutive of what is now usually referred to as Jews (while Vera Baboun, Haniye, generally called Palestinians instead, the guys in ONE FOR ISRAEL being called "Messianic Jews" rather than just Jews ... wait, they include Palestinians too).

3:06 In Matthew, these guys are not called "the Jews" they are called "the crowd" ... in St. John, they are retrospectively called Jews, because he applies the word to enemies of Christ by then.

St. Matthew does not state how big the crowd was in relation to all Jerusalem, if we go further it might seem those visited by resurrected deceased relatives or OT saints (the categories overlap) would be a larger portion of the Yerushalmis ... but over the decades, they are pushed out of what is very soon a purely non-Christian Jewish community, and they become part of the first Christian, later Christian and Muslim population we now refer to as Palestinians. You know, the guys that fulfilled the prophecies in Isaiah 11 and so on.

3:25 Pontius Pilate wants no part of it.

Think of the Mafia boss telling his harlot, that the decision to kill her husband was hers, not his ...

4:28 w a i t ... would the real husband tell the Mafia boss their common interest had greater guilt against him than he had?

N O T E ... by this time, the Christ-Rejectors are still a minority. If we skip the allegory and go back to the real case, there were plenty of Jews in Jerusalem to whom God in the flesh could easily still relate as to His Bride. It was a minority that by this time had become a harlot.

Decades later, they were a majority and St. John could refer to them as Jews, as they referred to themselves as.

After having noted Jesus refused to call them that.

However, the case is not unique. In Henry VIII time English are still majority faithful Catholics. The compromises they make seem to them usually as minor changes (yes, even supremacy), and therefore acceptable. By the time of Elisabeth, they are a majority Protestants + other Anti-Catholics. Belloc estimates the remaining Catholics to a quarter.

Hrvatski Noahid

@hrvatskinoahid1048

God does not have a body or any form.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@hrvatskinoahid1048 You are nearly* 2025 years behind the times.

* Note

20.II this leap year lacks 34 days to 25.III.

5:31 Christian traditions about Pontius Pilate are divided.

Ethiopians consider him a saint. Others, among them some Catholis and Protestants of the Alpine region, consider him a suicide. The two are not compatible.

But even considering him as a saint has no bearing on his degree of guilt while doing this. He could have been the third most evil man in Jerusalem or even the universe that day (after Caiaphas and perhaps if Judas was alive, Judas ...) ... and he could have repented later and become a saint.

It's pretty clear his wife is a saint.

5:49 Did Daniel consider the Babylonian and Persian Empires were there, while the one was and then the other became, because God wanted it that way?

[Daniel 3:95]
91 Then Nabuchodonosor the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and said to his nobles: Did we not cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered the king, and said: True, O king. 92 He answered, and said: Behold I see four men loose, and walking in the midst of the fire, and there is no hurt in them, and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. 93 Then Nabuchodonosor came to the door of the burning fiery furnace, and said: Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, ye servants of the most high God, go ye forth, and come. And immediately Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago went out from the midst of the fire. 94 And the nobles, and the magistrates, and the judges, and the great men of the king being gathered together, considered these men, that the fire had no power on their bodies, and that not a hair of their head had been singed, nor their garments altered, nor the smell of the fire had passed on them. 95 Then Nabuchodonosor breaking forth, said: Blessed be the God of them, to wit, of Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that believed in him: and they changed the king's word, and delivered up their bodies that they might not serve, nor adore any god, except their own God

96 By me therefore this decree is made, that every people, tribe, and tongue, which shall speak blasphemy against the God of Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, shall be destroyed, and their houses laid waste: for there is no other God that can save in this manner. 97 Then the king promoted Sidrach, Misach, and Abdenago, in the province of Babylon. 98 Nabuchodonosor the king, to all peoples, nations, and tongues, that dwell in all the earth, peace be multiplied unto you. 99 The most high God hath wrought signs and wonders toward me. It hath seemed good to me therefore to publish 100 His signs, because they are great: and his wonders, because they are mighty: and his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his power to all generations.

For that matter, did Jeremias consider Jews ought to live like peaceful citizens in Babylon in anything that was not against their faith? That's what St. Paul is telling the first Catholics.

7:07 Isn't Jeremias also both pro-Babylon and anti-Babylon?

Jeremias took the yoke ... "no, if you rebel against Babylon, you rebel against God" (St. Paul)
Jeremias spoke out about the fall of Babylon = St. John speaks out about the fall of the end times Babylon.

Speaking of which, did you know that recently Greek Orthodox Palestinians had trouble getting the Patriarch they wanted, some government in Jerusalem was claiming to have inherited FROM ROME the power to name those ...

7:52 We get it, like a Pagan Roman you don't like that Jewish business about Jesus Christ!

Two Romans speaking of Jewishness:

Pilate answered: Am I a Jew? Thy own nation, and the chief priests, have delivered thee up to me: what hast thou done?
[John 18:35]

But Paul said to him: I am a Jew of Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city. And I beseech thee, suffer me to speak to the people.
[Acts of Apostles 21:39]

Two Romans speaking of Christianity, Acts 26:

24 As he spoke these things, and made his answer, Festus said with a loud voice: Paul, thou art beside thyself: much learning doth make thee mad. 25 And Paul said: I am not mad, most excellent Festus, but I speak words of truth and soberness.

8:11 "the amount of abuse of the Hebrew Bible"

Unless those abusing it are you guys ... even to the text. On a certain point in time, having read Hebrews, you even made a wrong and for many new decision about the text of Genesis 11.

St. Paul made a point that Abraham, and therefore Levi, had tithed to Melchisedec.
The Jews were suddenly very interested in the shorter chronology of the chapter, so they could pretend Melchisedec was Shem.

Josephus accepted the new total of years from Flood to birth of Abraham, 292, and then proceeded to enumerate a total adding up to over 800 years of the individual items.

Was HE in Antiquities providing the mathematically savvy a warning that Judaism was faking its texts?

10:04 Yeah, I've heard about the Pisonian conspiracy.

I've already debunked the arguments I have seen so far.

For instance, such and such a chapter and verse for such and such a reason symbolic is supposed to give Kappa Pi as Kalpournios Peison.

The problem with that is, chapters were divided in the 1200's AD (including for the Tanakh!) by a Catholic bishop on a hunting trip (he knew the Bible by heart, he was a Christian Yanuka). The verse divisions were added even later, by Renaissance printers, and sometimes diverge between KJ and Catholic Bibles. Would God have made a forger into a prophet?

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Though some might consider that's like hoping for figs from a thistle.

The video was claiming that Jesus did not fulfil Daniel 9.

Daniel 9 Demonstrates that Jesus Couldn't be the Messiah -Rabbi Tovia Singer
Tovia Singer | 28 Jan. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p57CiVtdHFY

2:24 How did sin end with Jesus?

• From Eve and Adam on, sin had continued with every man
  Mary and Jesus are the first two persons with human flesh to be sinless.
  
  
• From Adam on, mankind due to sin has had to die.
  Jesus paid for Adam's sin, so we can be resurrected.
  
  
• From Adam on, mankind due to sin has been excluded from Heaven.
  Jesus paid for Adam's sin, so we can get to Heaven.
  
  
• From Adam on, people have basically remained in guilt, even when God forgave, there was no ontological change.
  Jesus gave forgiveness of sin, so that a sinner who is baptised or who repents as an adult and goes to confession is a new creature.
  
  
• From Babel on, lots of sins have dominated society. Slavehunt being one of them, and Exodus 21:16 says this merits death penalty. Abortion, among pagans.
  Christianity has ended abortion and slavehunt, not as features of bandits, but as things in civilised society.
  
  
• From some time after Babel, demons have misled people after people into not just false belief, but also worshipping what one should clearly see is not God. Like Apollo of Delphi.
  Christianity ended paganism.
  
  
• Since sin was Satan's victory, mankind was Satan's property since Adam sinned.
  Since sinlessness is God's victory, we have a chance to be God's property instead.

2:50 The answer is yes.

Ryvon Krygier in his planned speech for Notre Dame, where he shouldn't have been received, challenged on Isaias 11.

I have answered the challenge, and been ignored.

The Greater Israel actually was there in the 1st C. Christian Jews, Samarians, Galilaeans, Edomites, Moabites and Ammonites, as well as Egyptians and people from Mesopotamia.

The central population of that are Palestinians. The Muslim Palestinians are basically Christian Palestinians who became Muslims, and Mitsrahi Jews who became Muslims, a very early population of Yanissaries and Dönmes. Some later became the Druz. The Christian Palestinians however started out as such in the first century, and are therefore the world's oldest population of Marranos.

So, yes, Jesus actually did accomplish Isaias 11.

3:58 Catholic Comment here:

Ver. 24. Seventy weeks (viz. of years, or seventy times seven, that is, 490 years) are shortened; that is, fixed and determined, so that the time shall be no longer. (Challoner)

This is not a conditional prophecy. Daniel was solicitous to know when the seventy years of Jeremias would terminate. But something of far greater consequence is revealed to him, (Worthington) even the coming and death of the Messias, four hundred and ninety years after the order for rebuilding the walls should be given, (Calmet) at which period Christ would redeem the world, (Worthington) and abolish the sacrifices of the law. (Calmet)

Finished, or arrive at its height by the crucifixion of the Son of God; (Theod.) or rather sin shall be forgiven. Hebrew, "to finish crimes to seal (cover or remit) sins, and to expiate iniquity."

Anointed. Christ is the great anointed of God, the source of justice, and the end of the law and of the prophets, (Acts x. 38. and 1 Corinthians i. 30; Romans x. 4.; Calmet) as well as the pardoner of crimes. These four characters belong only to Christ. (Worthington)
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Ver. 25. Word, &c. That is, from the twentieth year of king Artaxerxes, when, by his commandment, Nehemias rebuilt the walls of Jerusalem, 2 Esdras ii. From which time, according to the best chronology, there were just sixty-nine weeks of years, that is 483 years, to the baptism of Christ, when he first began to preach and execute the office of Messias. (Challoner)

The prophecy is divided into three periods: the first of forty-nine years, during which the walls were completed; (they had been raised in fifty-two days, (2 Esdras vi. 15.) but many other fortifications were still requisite) the second of four hundred and thirty-four years, at the end of which Christ was baptized, in the fifteenth of Tiberius, the third of three years and a half, during which Christ preached. In the middle of this last week, the ancient sacrifices became useless, (Calmet) as the true Lamb of God had been immolated. (Theod.)

A week of years denotes seven years, as Leviticus xxv. and thus seventy of these weeks would make four hundred and ninety years. (Ven. Bede, Rat. temp. 6 &c.; Worthington)

Origen would understand 4900 years, and dates from the fall of Adam to the ruin of the temple. Marsham begins twenty-one years after the captivity commenced, when Darius took Susa, and ends in the second of Judas, when the temple was purified. This system would destroy the prediction of Christ's coming, and is very uncertain. Hardouin modifies it, and acknowledges that Christ was the end of the prophecy, though it was fulfilled in figure by the death of Onias III. See 1 Machabees i. 19; Senens. Bib. viii. h�r. 12; and Estius. From chap. vii. to xii., the changes in the East, till the time of Epiphanes, are variously described. After the angel had here addressed Daniel, the latter was still perplexed; (Chap. x. 1.) and in order to remove his doubts, the angel informs him of the persecution of Epiphanes, as if he had been speaking of the same event. We may, therefore, count forty-nine years from the taking of Jerusalem (when Jeremias spoke, chap. v. 19.) to Cyrus, the anointed, (Isaias xlv. 1.) who was appointed to free God's people. They should still be under the Persians, &c., for other four hundred and thirty-four years, and then Onias should be slain. Many would join the Machabees; the sacrifices should cease in the middle of the seventieth week, and the desolation shall continue to the end of it. Yet, though this system may seem plausible, it is better to stick to the common one, which naturally leads us to the death of Christ, dating from the tenth year of Artaxerxes. (Calmet)

He had reigned ten years already with his father. (Petau.)

All the East was persuaded that a great king should arise about the time; when our Saviour actually appeared, and fulfilled all that had been spoken of the Messias. (Calmet, Diss.)

Ferguson says, "We have an astronomical demonstration of the truth of this ancient prophecy, seeing that the prophetic year of the Messias being cut off was the very same with the astronomical." In a dispute between a Jew and a Christian, at Venice, the Rabbi who presided....put an end to the business by saying, "Let us shut up our Bibles; for if we proceed in the examination of this prophecy, it will make us all become Christians." (Watson, let. 6.)

Hence probably the Jews denounce a curse on those who calculate the times, (Haydock) and they have purposely curtailed their chronology. (Calmet)

Times, &c. (angustia temporum) which may allude both to the difficulties and opposition they met with in building, and to the shortness of the time in which they finished the wall, viz. fifty-two days. (Challoner)
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Ver. 26. Weeks, or four hundred and thirty-eight years, which elapsed from the twentieth of Artaxerxes to the death of Christ, according to the most exact chronologists. (Calmet)

Slain. Protestants, "cut off, but not for himself, and the people of the prince that," &c. (Haydock)

St. Jerome and some manuscripts read, Christus, et non erit ejus. The sense is thus suspended. The Jews lose their prerogative of being God's people. (Calmet)

Christ will not receive them again. (St. Jerome)

Greek: "the unction shall be destroyed, and there shall not be judgment in him." The priesthood and royal dignity is taken from the Jews. (Theod.)

The order of succession among the high priests was quite deranged, while the country was ruled by the Romans, and by Herod, a foreigner. (Calmet)

Leader. The Romans under Titus. (Challoner; Calmet)
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Ver. 27. Many. Christ seems to allude to this passage, Matthew xxvi. 28. He died for all; but several of the Jews particularly, would not receive the proffered grace. (Calmet)

Of the week, or in the middle of the week, &c. Because Christ preached three years and a half: and then, by his sacrifice upon the cross, abolished all the sacrifices of the law. (Challoner)

Temple. Hebrew, "the wing," (Calmet) or pinnacle, (Haydock) the highest part of the temple. (Calmet)

Desolation. Some understand this of the profanation of the temple by the crimes of the Jews, and by the bloody faction of the zealots. Others, of the bringing in thither the ensigns and standard of the pagan Romans. Others, in fine, distinguish three different times of desolation: viz. that under Antiochus; that when the temple was destroyed by the Romans; and the last near the end of the world, under antichrist. To all which, as they suppose, this prophecy may have a relation. (Challoner)

Protestants, "For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even unto the consummation; and that determined, shall be poured upon the desolate." (Haydock)

The ruin shall be entire. (Calmet)

"and everlasting justice may be brought;"

The justice of Christ is everlasting in two ways.

• It's the justice of God, a man who has this justice has "everlasting life" as the NT paraphrases it.
• It's the definive law. Some laws of Moses were dispensations as the best that could be had at the time, like allowing divorce bills, and are abolished, and some laws were figures that now are replaced by the truth itself.

"and vision and prophecy may be fulfilled;"

Not only does the writing of the NT contain several remarks on prophecy fulfilled, but the Catholic Church has an exegesis on basically all of the Old Testament, including things that you didn't know had that kind of prophetic meaning on top of the historical one.

"and the Saint of saints may be anointed."

His anointing being then transmitted to the Apostles and to the Episcopate, this is the constitutive fact about the Catholic Church.

5:01 Yes, if the Gospels had began with a false narrative it is inconceivable that the Resurrection would have happened.

And if the Resurrection had not happened, the Church would not have begun.

It's easier for a community to tell itself lies about other communities than to do it about oneself. I don't mean things like misproportionate importance or things like that, I mean straight off lies, like changing name, adress, life story, sequence of events etc of founder.

If you ask us to believe the Resurrection didn't happen, you are basically asking us to believe the US didn't begin with George Washington making a Declaration of Independence.

It's not like the cherry tree story. George Washington didn't know Benjamin Franklin or Gilbert de Lafayette back when he was six, and he had no idea he would protest against George III about taxation.

Now, you could perhaps imagine a fraud about the Resurrection. Except a fraudster wouldn't decade after decade put himself into danger of martyrdom from [AD] 33 to 68, as Peter did. And if you pretend Peter was a dupe, who was the fraudster? The Church not remembering him would be extraordinary, like the US forgetting John Adams between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

Hrvatski Noahid

@hrvatskinoahid1048

Any Gentile who accepts the Seven Noahide Commandments, and is careful to observe them, is truly a pious individual of the nations of the world, and merits an eternal portion in the future World to Come. (And with this merit, the person will be included in the Resurrection of the Dead). Your idol is not special.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@hrvatskinoahid1048 Totally irrelevant.

My point was not about morality, but about history.

Hrvatski Noahid

@hglundahl The point is your hero's resurrection is not unique.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@hrvatskinoahid1048 I take it you are comparing Jesus to:

• Hercules
• Krishna and Rama
• Romulus
• Buddha

and a few more.

I happen to know their stories sufficiently well to know, no, the Resurrection really is unique. In each of these cases, there is a historic community who considered itself as descending from the hero or from those who knew him, spiritual or physical descent or both, and in each of these cases, I am willing to grant the main outline of the story.

None of these have died on a Cross (or otherwise) and been buried and then appeared to people who had also seen the tomb empty. With Hercules, Krishna, Rama and Buddha, we have a funeral pyre. With Romulus we have a disappearance, plus one man having a dream claiming Romulus appeared to him.

So, the Lord of Life and Death, Whom we know the God of the Old Testament as being, has not given any of these the kind of endorsement He gave to Elijah or Elisha.

You may answer, what about Hercules and Alkestis?

• Well, we know the Phoenicians had contact with Greeks, we know the boy Elijah raised was in Phoenician territory, we know the Phoenicians were willing to identify their Baal with Hercules and so were the Greeks, so:
• I find it probable, that Phoenicians attributed the raised boy to Baal, rather than to the true God, and I therefore find it probable this "story about Baal" became a story about Hercules;
• who actually lived before the Trojan war in 1180 BC, while our earliest full length source about Alkestis is a tragedy by the Classic Attics, giving sufficient time for the tradition about Hercules to be contaminated by another tradition.

If you say "what about Dionysus?" I reply, the story of Dionysus was the story of Moses told at several distortions removed. How Dionysus challenges Pentheus matches how Moses challenged the Pharao for real.

5:17 Isaias 2?

I didn't see "world peace" but I did see international adherence to God.

16 And upon all the ships of Tharsis, and upon all that is fair to behold. 17 And the loftiness of men shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be humbled, and the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And idols shall be utterly destroyed. 19 And they shall go into the holes of rocks, and into the caves of the earth from the face of the fear of the Lord, and from the glory of his majesty, when he shall rise up to strike the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast away his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which he had made for himself to adore, moles and bats.

Why are idol worshippers called "pagan"? Paganus means "villager" ... well, that's where idols and their cults survived for some time when ROME cast away his idols of silver and of gold.

Where was Paul from again? Do you see a hint in verse 16?

Now, verse 17 has sth to say on Franziskanergruft and Habsburg burials, as compared to Nebuchadnezzar. At least these verses are ACCOMPLISHED in known historical fact.

Isaias 3

1 For behold the sovereign the Lord of hosts shall take away from Jerusalem, and from Juda the valiant and the strong, the whole strength of bread, and the whole strength of water. 2 The strong man, and the man of war, the judge, and the prophet, and the cunning man, and the ancient. 3 The captain over fifty, and the honourable in countenance, and the counsellor, and the architect, and the skillful in eloquent speech.

Also known as Matthew 5

4 Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land.

From when Jesus founded the Palestinian nation, by reuniting Jews and Samaritans (Acts 2 and 8), to the present, Palestinians have been under foreign domination, and pretty content with it.

The precise fact some present as pseudo-proof they didn't exist for all this time, is real proof they had no own army all this time (prior to PLO and Hamas and all that).

ACCOMPLISHED.

Isaias 4 directly prophecies the Church.

ACCOMPLISHED.

Zacharias 9.

9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Sion, shout for joy, O daughter of Jerusalem: BEHOLD THY KING will come to thee, the just and saviour: he is poor, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. 10 And I will destroy the chariot out of Ephraim, and the horse out of Jerusalem, and the bow for war shall be broken: and he shall speak peace to the Gentiles, and his power shall be from sea to sea, and from the rivers even to the end of the earth.

Accomplished in the Palm Sunday entry of Our Lord, and also in Palestinians having no army and consisting of both Jews and Samarians since the early Church.

Note he shall speak peace to the Gentiles doesn't mean the Gentiles will always be peaceful, but it means the Gentiles will be aware of angels singing (as it is written on St. Nicolas du Chardonnet in Paris) et in terra pax hominibus bonae voluntatis meaning both that people of good will will have a peace that surpasses the understanding of the word, and that desiring peace is a requisite for being a man of goodwill.

And his power shall be from sea to sea, and from the rivers even to the end of the earth." Refers to the omnipresence of the Catholic Church.

ACCOMPLISHED.

Zacharias 10.

I'll not quote verses this time, but the Roman Catholic explanation, as a subtitle under the chapter number:

"God is to be sought to, and not idols. The victories of his church, which shall arise originally from the Jewish nation."

Hrvatski Noahid

@hglundahl Worshiping a person is idolatry.

Paula Wallace

@paulawallace8784

As Isaiah tells, King David's progeny, a mortal man of flesh and blood comes at the End of the Days, he will be ANIMATED BY THE FEAR OF THE LRD!

Hans Georg Lundahl

@hrvatskinoahid1048 Is Ha Shem one person or three persons?

Either way, you worship a person.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@paulawallace8784 He showed that animation while cleansing the temple twice, one time just at the beginning of His carreere, one more time after Palm Sunday.

Hrvatski Noahid

@hglundahl Nope. The main prohibition against idol worship is not to serve one of the creations, be it an angel, a spiritual power, a constellation, a star or a planet, one of the fundamentals of the physical creation, a person, an animal, a tree, or any other created thing.

Paula Wallace

@hglundahl Preventing those who traveled a far distance to go to the Temple to offer their Sacrifices, destruction of personal property and causing a disturbance in a sacred place shows the animation of his narcissistic ego, just as the Palm Sunday incident, the very Opposite of Zechariah's Humble, Peace Speaking Donkey rider.

Paula Wallace

@hglundahl The definition of the word "Person" is a human being.
The CREATOR is NOT a Person, to worship a Person is to be an Idolater.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@paulawallace8784 I don't see where you get it from to say "the creator is not a person" .... do you believe He has not will or knowledge?

Hans Georg Lundahl

@hrvatskinoahid1048 "a person ... or any other created thing."

Who says a person needs to be created?

Are you denying the Creator to have or be a Mind?

Hans Georg Lundahl

@paulawallace8784 "Preventing those who traveled a far distance to go to the Temple to offer their Sacrifices,"

He didn't.

The merchants were preventing Gentiles from praying where they had a right to pray.

Jesus was chasing them away. Not the people trying to sacrifice.

Paula Wallace

@hglundahl The Merchants sold animals to Jews who traveled a far distance to the Temple, according to the Greek Tall Tales he caused a public disturbance and trashed other people's property all due to his narcisstic ego, that is IF he existed, which I don't.

Paula Wallace

@hglundahl Again, the definition of the word "Person" is a human being, a created creature, NOT the CREATOR!

Hans Georg Lundahl

I don't buy your definition of person @paulawallace8784.

If you define person away from the Creator, you open up for the godless Kabbalists who regard "God" as a primary force of reality, but not a conscious one.

So sorry for you, if your translation mistranslates, not my problem, since I'm a Catholic.

The people who had travalled far away could have bought animals outside the temple precinct. The temple authorities preferred saying "oh no, you can't pay sacrificial animals in denarii" ... and the Roman authorities said "you can't get shekels outside the temple precinct" — both made a profit of this arrangement, which was impious.

It blocked the Gentiles for whom the space had been made, outside the temple.

BOTH made another kind of profit too, namely by keeping Gentiles Pagan, the Temple authorities dealt only or mainly with Jews who were already used to them, while Pilate avoided soldiers becoming Proselytes.

Is Tovia Singer a purveyor of English tall tales because he speaks in English?

He's less Jewish than either Matthew or John, since he's visibly Ashkenazi.

Paula Wallace

@hglundahl So show me a dictionary that doesn't define the world "Person" as a human being.

Paula Wallace

As your posts reflect, you do not know Gd, Scripture, His Son nor His coming instrument of His Will, King David's progeny, much less the deep esoteric teachings of the Kabbalah, which is only for those who know Gd and His Eternal Truth intimately.

Hans Georg Lundahl

@paulawallace8784 Here is the answer to two of yours, already saved on my blog, but apparently deleted here:

[see above]

Now for more answers:

// So show me a dictionary //

1) Dictionaries are not the ultimate go to for true meaning of words.
2) There are probably plenty of dictionaries that have "human being" as at least one of the meanings. The Swedish Nordisk Familjebok has five articles on the concept:

Person, en menniskas yttre väsende - 1111-1112
Person. 1. Gramm., namn på den grammatiska kategori, som betecknar något af de tre förhållandena den talande, tilltalade och omtalade - 1111-1112
Person. 2. Teol. - 1111-1112
Person. 3. Filos., ett ursprungligt och sjelfständigt, sjelfmedvetande och fritt väsende - 1111-1112
Person. 4. Jur. Se Juridisk person och Moralisk person - 1111-1112

Article 3 refers to phil. an original, independent, self conscious and free being.
Article 2 obviously refers to the Blessed Trinity, since it's in Theol.

// much less the deep esoteric teachings of the Kabbalah, which is only for those who know Gd and His Eternal Truth intimately. //

Thank you very much, Our Lord Jesus Christ did away with esoteric teachings about Himself and the Trinity, insofar as Esoteric, and the ones left to you now are contaminated by your infidelity.

5:16 bis OT prophecy you claim Jesus did not accomplish is pretty fun stuff.

If you ever see any son or daughter of yours convert to Catholicism, they will tell you it's as fun as looking for the hidden matsa.

5:55 It's very striking you have basically no historic epistemology.

Given that lack of historic epistemology, how would you answer Matt Baker if he said exactly the same thing about Moses?

I mean the Matt Baker who's in "Useful Charts" and who's religion has more to do with Mendelson than with Amram's son.

Hrvatski Noahid

The Jewish people have an unbroken historical tradition to the very time of Moses.

Hans Georg Lundahl

Yes, we have that as the Catholic Church, @hrvatskinoahid1048 .

We also have an unbroken historical tradition to the very time of Jesus Christ.

Thanks for bringing up a bit better epistemology than Tovia Singer showed.

6:06 "pull out the camera"

Red Sea crossing?

6:12 "all the nations would serve him"

Jews, Samarians etc as given in Isaias 11.

Romans and Greeks.

Egyptians and Ethiopians.

Carthaginians like St. Augustine. That involves Berber populations of North Africa.

Armenians.

Irish, Anglo-Saxon, Frank, Briton, Norse, Finnish.

Pole and Lithuanian.

Ukrainian and Russian (at least those of Novgorod prior to Tatars).

Iroquois, Huron, Nahua, Quechua, Aymara, featuring both French Jesuits and Spanish Conquistadors. The Guaraní, featuring Spanish Jesuits.

Somewhat more of a minority in Chinese, Korean and Japanese people, but still, definitely present.

Sitting Bull not only died a Catholic, but actually converted Buffalo Bill before he died. So, add Sioux to the list or Lakota.

Please, have you ever read any geography?

And obviously a lot of Spanish Jews also converted. They are called Marranos. I like to think of myself as a Nordic Marrano, even if most of them are Lutheran or Pentecostal and I am Catholic.

Speaking of Pentecostals, Gipsies are often Catholic too. Speaking of Gipsies, Goa, Pondicherry.

And a Pakistani parliamentarian who was killed a few years ago, after 2000, for stepping up for religious freedom. Also a Catholic Christian.

I've certainly missed some, wait, Malawi and Nigeria, before I forget them. French Indochina. The last president of South Vietnam was a Catholic, his brother was the famous bishop Thuc.

If all the nations would serve him ... we do know.

6:20 I don't know exactly what Christians you frequent (though you mentioned Calvinists, that's a bad frequentation, if yours), but Catholics would point to most prophecies you mentioned as already fulfilled and already identifiable in known historic and geographic fact.

6:38 Holy of holies is a truth claim about anyone.

Let's say you identified the Messiah tomorrow.

How would you know it? It's a truth claim.

When you state that the Christian version of prophecy X is a truth claim you can't verify, how about checking whether your own hope of a fulfilment is a truthclaim you can't verify, or we would have to take your word for it?

But His anointing, as mentioned, has a relation to the anointing of His first twelve bishops. Which has a relation to the anointing of bishops up to this day.

In one of the prophecies I went through there was something about stones.

The last High Priest of the Old Testament we consider validly at any time of his life a High Priest of the most High, is Kaiaphas. The first of the New Testament is Petrus, a k a Kephas.

The one stone has not been left on the other (I'm supposing Hebrew original for Kaiaphas means stone, just as much as Aramaic original for Kephas), but the two stones have remained separate to this day. And of the Jewish High priests, after a certain time, no more stone was left to put on stone ... unlike the Christian ones.

Ah, yes, Zachary 9:16 And the Lord their God will save them in that day, as the flock of his people: for holy stones shall be lifted up over his land.

Refers to the papacy, which has persisted to this day.

7:07 The devil doing well today, nearly agreed.

The ending of sin is taken away, as Catholicism is pushed out of society after society.

However, it's not about the devil feeling fine, it's more about his raging, since he knows his time is short

Pope Leo XIII more than 100 years ago saw Satan and Jesus in a vision. Satan asked Jesus for 100 years to end the Catholic Church. I believe they started 1917, with the Russian Revolution.

I believe they ended in 2017, with a sign in heaven matching Apocalypse 12. Featuring constellation Virgo as the woman clad in the sun. One could not observe it from here, since the Sun was between, but one could verify the predictable astronomical positions of everything involved.

7:46 Would you mention one falsifiable claim that you pretend He didn't do?

I have seen lots of falsifiable claims He did do. We would have had another world history if He hadn't.