Agreeing with Robert Carter on Skeleta, Disagreeing on LXX

Where are all the skeletons from REALLY old people? Archaeology vs the Bible.
Biblical Genetics | 7 Dec. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A28Mi2drTI

1:43 It can be added, they seem to have miscalculated the 60 Anglo-Saxon skeleta from which they extrapolated the lifespans of the Middle Ages.

They had stated "none of them died beyond 45" and then a dentist comes around, looks at the dental calculus and concludes "yes, they did actually live longer than that" ...

3:22 Good point.

Robert Sungenis answered a question about Ishmael by stating "he was roughly ten years" ... well, no. He was born when Abraham was 86. He was not banished before Isaac was weaned. So, he was closer to 15 than to 14, in chronological age. How could his mother carry him?

14:24 If you are interested in my lineup of archaeology and Biblical chronology as per Roman Martyrology (LXX minus second Cainan), I pose Abraham's pharao as Narmer or even before or Hor Aha, Joseph's as Djoser. That would be a lot of generations.

15:18 To revert to my lineup, I place the post-Neanderthal Upper Palaeolithic at the 350 years after the Flood.

Anyone who died then, in LXX chronology, would be dying at younger ages than the line of Genesis 11.

Seth living 500 years into the post-Flood era would have died at carbon dated "6600 BC". Arphaxad 65 years later, carbon dated sth like "5900 BC". Shela 30 years after that. "5700 BC", Eber 174 years after that, "4364 BC", Peleg actually 30 years before his father, "4623 BC" ... Reu 130 years after his father, or 100 years after Peleg, between "3774" and "3652 BC" in carbon dates. None of these longlived guys died in the post-Neanderthal Palaeolithic.

RnJ

@UserRandJ

As per skip to minute 14 / the centre of false doctrine, and learn about your false views. Regards Jake

https://youtu.be/zxK8ZBn-pPU
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Lenka

@lenka156

Interesting.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

@UserRandJ That probable pastor has two arguments against the LXX.

First his second one. "God says nothing good about Egypt ever" ...

Now a certain Jew, named Apollo, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, came to Ephesus, one mighty in the scriptures.
[Acts of Apostles 18:24]

Which means, he was probably mighty in the Alexandria version of them.

Second, his first one. Egypt was the centre of Gnosticism.

Sethians started in Egypt and Palestine. Could be either place. Ophites were opposed by Alexandrian Christians using the LXX. Their writings [those of the Ophites] have been found in Nag Hammadi, which is far from Alexandria, in Upper Egypt. Cainites are undocumented except for early Church Father polemic. Valentinians come from Rome.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@lenka156 I think Genesis is interesting too ...

17:21 Visual spectacle of a pelican adult feeding the young half chewed fish looks a bit like the pelican pushing his own breast to feed them with his own blood.

In the Middle Ages, they were considered symbols of Christ.

Sharing, with a Highlight

Genes hiding among the junk: The Dark Proteome
Biblical Genetics | 4 Febr. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbTgzoNtyLc

if there's a mutation in 7:31 there that like deletes a single letter 7:33 or adds two letters you have what's 7:35 called a frame shift mutation and a 7:37 frame shift usually destroys the protein 7:39 because as soon as you shift out of 7:41 frame you're into random territory and 7:43 it's only going to be probably maybe 20 7:45 codons later before you get a stop 7:47 codon

So, frame shift mutations are NOT a very probable source of new information, I presume?

Neanderthals, Carter, Myself

Neanderthals, Carter, Myself · Mainly Sharing, but also Underlining

Carter first, here is his video:

Can creationists explain Neanderthals?
Biblical Genetics | 20.VIII.2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFgQM-VRJUI

Here are my comments on it:

6:22 Up to 230 years.

I obviously totally agree on POG idea being HOG-wash.

6:45 I think I'll even dispute the idea there were no caves prior to the Flood.

But supposing it were correct, the places we find them in are caves now, how if they were some kind of buildings that have since been covered inside and out with flowstone and Flood layers of the type "formerly shellfish"?

7:07 "Fossils that was laid down during the Flood"

When exactly has a clear Flood fossil been found in the same rock and cave as a Neanderthal?

I made a list of Lagerstätten for dino fossils and compared with a list of Neanderthal finds. If we suppose both to be pre-Flood, no collision occurred. The dinos can have been inserted as a kind of Berlin walls with dangerous beasts doing what automated machine guns did on the wall. One way of seeing Genesis 6:11 (or at least the aftermath of the Mahabharata war).

7:33 What if those islands were not islands in the pre-Flood world?

10:34 If both Denisovans and Neanderthals were pre-Flood, both could be (in various degrees) related to Nephelim. A supernatural event factoring in on mutations.

By the way, I disagree that Denisovans are only known from tiny body parts. Let me explain. In Atapuerca, there is a population that has at least at times been classed as "Homo Antecessor" ... it has a morphology very similar to Heidelbergians, and a genome (as per Svante Pääbo's tests) very similar to Denisovan.

I conclude that Heidelbergians had a genome very similar to Denisovan too and the pinky finger in the Denisova cave had a morphology very similar to Antecessor and to Heidelbergians. The three clades are just one. Obviously a population within humanity.

The fact that Antecessor in Atapuerca has been identified as committing (or at least being victim of) cannibalism chimes in very well with those people being in the times of Genesis 6:11.

For Neanderthals you have mentioned meals like clams, probably licit in the pre-Flood world, in El Sidrón you have found pine nuts on the dental calculus, licit in the pre-Flood world. In Belgium you had Neanderthals living on a diet of woolly rhino and fellow men, illicit in the pre-Flood, and as to the latter, also the post-Flood world.

11:37 Y-chromosomes of Neanderthals are lacking in men now alive. Mitochondria of them are lacking in man now alive. C. 1/3 of the autosomal DNA is still around as alleles. That's explainable if a daughter in law of Noah was halfbreed, with her father being Neanderthal.

The article "Are Neanderthals Pre-Flood" is a Feedback article from 2.II.2019. The exact same day, on my Creation vs. Evolution blog, I answered in the article: "Answering Robert Carter's Four Reasons" and one week later a dialogue is published on my FB Writings blog "Carter's Notification on His Post".

15:06 I would say that the Neanderthals eating pine nuts or clams (no nephesh khayah creatures, arguably) remembered Eden, and the Neanderthals eating woolly rhino and men, well, they acted very Genesis 6:11.

15:48 There are ways to air caves (though arguably not the kind your are sitting in). We do not need to assume the Neanderthals or anyone else regularly lived in caves, as opposed to using them as burial places.

Except obviously places where caves are a bit different, like in Cappadocia, or in parts of Jordan.

16:00 Near Nizza, some people had a way around that problem. Build a little house inside the cave. My blog post "Survival Tip, if you can find a cave by the seashore" is on the blog "Recipes from Home and Abroad"

16:43 Good Christian teachers found, galore: Pope St. Pius X (wrote encyclicals and a Catechism), Pope Michael II (Vatican in Exile). Lots between them.

16:56 Creation dot com is an excellent resource for Creation science, with caveats (like your placing Neanderthals post-Flood), but less so on Christian living. Obviously not quite as bad as "Father" James Martin, but even so. Or, on this topic, even Jimmy Akin is really bad, like Swamidass bad.