Wednesday, March 11, 2026

"Do you believe Pagan myths too?" — I actually do, but not the theology in them


I tried an apologetic method. And it proved Romulus' resurrection?
C. J. Cornthwaite | 2 Febr. 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Llctl2sKY


I don't think it proved Romulus' resurrection.

First, no one saw Romulus die, as far as I recall, he disappeared in a battle.

Second, no one saw him face to face in normal discourse after this, but one man claimed to have seen a theophany of Romulus in a dream.

It can be mentioned, that overall, divinity obviously excepted, I think Romulus is historic.

Here are a few dates for Jesus' birth in prior epochs:

ab unctione David in Regem, anno millesimo trigesimo secundo; Hebdomada sexagesima quinta, juxta Danielis prophetiam; Olympiade centesima nonagesima quarta; ab urbe Roma condita, anno septingentesimo quinquagesimo secundo; anno Imperii Octaviani Augusti quadragesimo secundo, toto Orbe in pace composito,


Did you notice "from the founding of Rome, the year seven hundredth, fiftieth and second"?

(By the way, Jesus is "traditionally" — prior to modern scholarship— born 1 BC, hence 752 from Rome, while Rome is founded 753 BC).

Third Livy's story about Romulus isn't the oldest version about the founding of Rome. Plenty of time for Quirinus worship to have tampered with the story.

"But probability calculations are meaningless if your method can't distinguish myth from history in the first place."

Your problem is you think the history of Romulus is "mythical" in one of the more prevalent modern senses, i e fictional.

Yes, I am Catholic, in case you wonder.

3:22 "the fictional founder of Rome"

Proton pseudos here.

6:48 At this time, Senators were exclusively taken from Patricians.

8:57 Given the demographics of Rome, at this time, an untutored peasant could have weight even in matters of the greatest importance.

10:51 Alba Longa would have had men of the noblest birth who were untutored peasant ... at this time.

12:10 The Latin would be Caprae Palus for all three texts. Goat's Marsh or She-Goat's Marsh are correct translations.

14:26 This is the version I recalled, I had maybe read Plutarch too.

Livy was part of my Latin.

17:39 We know it's no longer eyewitness accounts in Livy or Plutarch.

Tradition based on such accounts is however an option.

18:31 In the case of the five writers, it is not shared personal history.

But you can't rule out that the tradition they share is historic.

Now, the thing that would be bad for Christianity is not if Romulus is historic, but if Romulus is a god. And this story, taken as fully historical, gives too little indication of that.

  • A demon could have fooled Julius Proculus (or Proculus Julius)
  • He could have been a shrewd peasant who knew what the Patricians wanted to hear (and what he would be rewarded for)
  • The Patrician Senators could even have told him.


Now, we know this because 18:43 we know this is fiction. But if you 18:45 lived in a world hundreds of years later 18:47 where two stories talked about platform 18:49 9 and 3/4, it doesn't mean that there's 18:52 actually a place there where you can go 18:53 to catch a train to Hogwarts.


For Hogwarts, we know it's fiction.

But we know that from the tradition from the first readers.

That's a kind of knowledge of fictionality we do not have for the Gospel accounts, and we do also not have for the Romulus accounts.

Both were from the earliest mentions we have taken as historic accounts.

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