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Saturday, January 14, 2023
Netanyahu is ignorant of history
Netanyahu is ignorant of history · Origin of Palestinians
Jordan Peterson interviews Netanyahu:
https://youtube.com/shorts/_CJydmoDoDs
The Arabs didn't kick out the Jews.
First, the land was divided confessionally between Jews and Christians. BOTH were descended from Jews, Samarians and Galilaeans a few centuries earlier. BOTH spoke Aramaic.
Second, the Peninsular Arabs certainly conquered, but they did not dispossess Jewish and Christian farmers and Beduins. They took over the command and forced more than one to Islamise.
Stating that Palestinians descend from Peninsular Arabs is like saying the French descend from Franks or the Spanish from Visigoths (or Arabs).
The Muslim part of the Palestinians (descended mostly from Jews, Samarians and Galilaeans, like the Christians) first were Arabised in language, a bit like Ashkenazi Jews were Germanised in language.
Then the Christian Palestinians changed from Aramaic to Arabic in the Countercrusade.
"If they establish a viable state"
1) Well, the Jews didn't have a viable state since Herod and Archelaus died.
2) A possessor or even tenant who has held the land since his ancestors were Jewish under the Second Temple is not exactly a candidate for dispossession because Ashkenazis who lived in Poland or Germany or Russia for centuries can't get the history right.
3) Not having a viable state is no argument for not keeping your property or usufruit.
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