Fr. Casey's Somewhat Off · Casey got Galileo Wrong · On Friar Review & Babylon Bee
Casey and Patrick take on BabylonBee:
The Babylon Bee.... is kinda mean
Upon Friar Review, 20 Jan. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f08ZniO00YI
I comment* on both:
3:12 As having had much of my earliest Christian education in Austria, what does not drinking alcohol have to do with following the Bible?
I mean
3:48 And as I have no driver's licence, I am not concerned with being able to drive.
Vienna, Södertelge, Frankfurt, Malmö, Sigtuna, Lund, Marseille, Aix, Carpentras, Avignon, Paris, all of these are places where you do very well without a driver's licence.
Part of them, you walk where you need to go, mostly, part of them, there's bus and sometimes subway.
Some few years were a bit different, but I had friends with cars.
4:00 One exception. Let's not use God's name as a cuss word.
One noble in the 13th C did that, and St. Lewis IX had his lips burnt with coal (probably briefly so he wasn't handicapped, but still).
5:22 - what makes Richard Rohr qualified for inclusion?
"In a 1999 essay, and afterward, Rohr has welcomed and affirmed God's love for LGBTQ people, emphasizing that God asks the same of people in same-sex relationships as of those in heterosexual ones: 'truth, faithfulness, and striving to enter into covenants of continuing forgiveness of one another'."
No, God is not asking faithfulness of two men to each other, they are very welcome to quit such a relation and each get a wife instead!
So, I'd go with BabylonBee on this one. But, Chaput doesn't make it onto the list, and he also was not mentioned on the clip.
(Father Chaput or Chaput? 1970, so Chaput, unlike Father Viganò, 1968).
6:39 Patrick, recall the stance of St. Lewis IX ...?
That was just one consonant away ...
7:24 I wonder if diarrhea really fits in as a side effect of Christianity lite?
Btw, St. Caesarius of Arles, untypically considering 616 as the correct reading of Apoc 13:18, considered the symbolism behind the gematria was ... In XPICTOC, you ignore OC, as just the ending, variable by cases, and XPICT is 716. By contrast, XICT, that is XPICT without the ῥῶ, without the R-ough letter, adds up to 616.
I don't take that as the gematria for THE very "bestia de mari ascendens" in his name, but it's certainly a tendency leading up to him.
Now check IULJANOV (Iljitj Uljanov, using the Swedish spelling, he was quarter Swedish), and see what that adds up to in ASCII ...
8:57 As Satan was asked about "50 years" - reminds me of 100 years mentioned in a vision to Pope Leo XIII.
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization
2022 - after Satan's century, which presumably began after Fatima visions and ended in the Apocalypse 12 sign in September 2017 ...
11:20 There certainly was a time when Democrats were Rome, Rum and Rebellion, but that was some time ago ...
Since then it's of late more like Malthus, Galton, Moloch .... (not to be confused with a certain film company) ...
11:26 I think you just made a great case for THIRD Party.
Imagine Tea Party meets Bernie? Marco Rubio nearly was it ...
Some "Catholics" made fun of this Catholic, because he didn't come out as out and out a Deep Timer.
But unfortunatley, the real, Democrat, Bernie, is not taking his tea with Tea Party ...
12:51 Have you considered the possibility that Babylon Bee, just might (very faintheartedly, but still) be trying to give Harris and Pelosi a well needed wake up call, to give them back some of the dignity inherent in the image and likeness of God ...?
14:34 When it comes to Romney, they may be wrong.
He is not for taxing green house gasses (according to wiki) and he would have, like Trump, nominated people like Kavanaugh and some more.
16:12 I walked out of a service when it was announced in pulpit we were getting a woman priest ... that was one time when it was apparent, waiting to convert along with Lutherans of the "affirming Catholicity" type later on was not just good enough ....
But coffee from Costco was probably for comic effect (like diarrhea as side effect of Christianity lite).
After seing the end of the clip, more like a satire on Church hopping - a somewhat unfair one.
27:57 Reminds of Alex Pismenny being very defensive for last "three Popes" (meaning Antipopes residing in the Vatican) being on the Team Darwin ... Pius XII was at least on the hedge, that's like Honorius being on the hedge on Monotheletism ...
30:14 I wonder where that guy is placing the supposedly previous Church during those 1500 years, spec. the first 1000 of them?
I think "all days" means "all days" ... (Mt 28:16-20).
30:29 Let's go with Roman martyrology and suppose Abel was killed soon before the birth of Seth.
5199 + 2023 - 229 = 6993 years.
"What? Adam was a Catholic before he sinned? My bad"
5199 + 2023 = 7222
30:53 BY the way, I think the interruption misrepresented him.
The Catholics had a 1500 year run - oh, he meant up to Luther!
That's more like it.
Yeah, Patrick, I do remember he was a prequel to Bugnini.
31:54 Yeah, I've noted some Anglicans and Lutherans get above you in Catholicity after Bugnini-Montini on the liturgic team and Rahner-Ratzinger-Wojtyla on the doctrinal exegesis one ...
How about getting back to pre-Reformation actual Catholicism? There is a Vatican in Exile on your continent ...
34:05 I read up on their statement of faith.
The point on I Scriptures is not definitively stating Sola Scriptura. Also not denying it.
Most relevant passage:
"It reveals the principles by which God judges us, and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions should be tried."
Noting it doesn't say "sole supreme" - just "supreme" ...
Unfortunagtely number VI is much worse:
"A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is an autonomous local congregation of baptized believers, associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel; observing the two ordinances of Christ,"
Ooops, "autonomous local" - "associated by covenant" - "two ordinances" ...
While Baptism actually is a covenant with God, the middle term gives the impression that it's a covenant actively made by each one getting baptised in his own person. Last has wrong number, first wa true for a few days in Jerusalem after Pentecost. From Acts 8, there is another local congregation that is NOT autonomous. And that was close on 2000 years ago.
34:30 Yeah, especially not to put Lyell and Darwin or Lord Kelvin and Stephen Jay Gould side by side with Moses or Galileo and Kepler, Bradley and Bessel side by side with Joshua ...
Know what? In 1988, making this discrimination against modern pseudo-science was perfectly legal in the Novus Ordo sect, this was the case when I converted, but just after Pope Michael was elected, the one he said wasn't really pope set out to prove him right in the early 90's ... new Christmas proclamation, condemnation of Fundamentalism, the speech where Wojtyla called Galileo right or Evolution more than just a theory (unfortunately, it's very clear he didn't say "more than one single theory").
Magisterial adjustment - I prefer to take that one from people who aren't discrediting their connexion to Catholic tradition!
37:55 "so much for no new revelation"
Indeed. A good reason to prefer Pope Michael over the Palmarians (I'm an ex-Palmarian).
Have you heard of the Palmarian Bible? It doesn't say God refused King David's prayer or that Solomon was his second son with Bathsheba ...
A Vulgate or Douay Rheims or Monsignor Knox Bible in the Vatican in Exile actually does.
40:12 I think it was a psalm I was discussing with two Mormons on a visit - they heard my take, and decided it was no use to try with me.
It involved either an answer against OSAS (not sure if Mormons have that heresy, Sid Roth doesn't), or their on and off view of when the Church is present on earth. But that was back before 2004.
41:15 As Catholics, we disconnect with materialism to give room for God.
Buddhism, more like to disconnect with not being / feeling content ...
41:22 I have already said it. Mahabharata and Ramayana are not just stories.
Mahabharata describes in less doctrinal fidelity but more historic detail what the pre-Flood world looked like, and Ramayana involves Kush's son Regma looking for a kidnapped wife and Kush's other son Nimrod (before he broke bad, or perhaps while he did) watching out for him.
I hope for Krishna's sake he didn't tell Arjuna things like "I'm God" basically.
43:28 Indeed.
Take the word "Antipapacy" - it's usually meant to designate things like Antipapacy of John XXIII (Cossa) or of John XXIII bis (Roncalli), that is, it's about an anti-claim against the real incumbent Pope or otherwise a failed claim to being Pope.
But etymologically, it could mean something else. It could mean using something as an opposite of Papal infallibility.
There are Protestants to which the Papacy as an insttution is just an Antipapacy in the first sense, like Pius XI or Pope Michael usurping the 2000 year long papacy of the Paper Pope, but there are also Protestants to whom the Papacy functions as Antipapacy in the second sense.
"Catholics think it is OK to drink moderately (unless you drive a car), therefore we must shun social drinking" or "Catholics use liturgic colours, therefore we can't go to Anglican services with liturgic colours" (the latter an example from Cromwell's time).
I sensed that early on, among some Protestants of Vienna. I got allergic to it.
However, I think the examples from Babylon Bee do not really embody that.
* The time signatures are where in the video I am commenting at.
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