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Ancient Apocalypse, Fact Or Fiction? Episode 1
History with Kayleigh, 27 Nov. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZ-7dFyAhc

2:52 With Graham Hancock's acceptance of archaeological, palaeontological and geological dating methods, and his acceptance of an ice age lasting 89 000 years, if he wants to say the Neolithic Revolution built on previous work, it has to be during the ice age, at least preserved then.

With a YEC view, the ice age lasting a few centuries (I'd say between Flood and death of Noah), I am obviously free to imagine the knowhow survived a temporary suspension and is therefore from before the Ice Age, from before the Flood.

4:45 11 600 years ago, if the charcoals at lower levels of Göbekli Tepe had an original sample level of c. 100 pmC.

If instead they had an original level of 42 - 43 pmC, the dates lowering that to a bit lower than 25 pmC would closely correspond to beginning of Babel at death of Noah ... which is by the way the hypothesis by which I arrive at that type of level.

From tables made on that equation, and the equation of Genesis 14 in 1935 BC with the archaeology of Amorrhaeans evacuating in "3500 BC" (reed mats on which temple treasures were carried out from En Geddi), I arrive at intermediate extrapolated levels, where the end of Fontbrégoua cave, the last surviving of three cannibal sites of the Linear Pottery culture, coincides with Abraham being 7 or 8 and presumably learning to pray by his great grand father Sarug.

5:53 "quite the open mind"

Not what this YEC found ... I was trying a few years ago to get Egyptian carbon dates in view of my already mentioned tables for carbon levels in the atmosphere, I eventually found coffin dates for Djoser and Senusret III, without the guys in the "Coffin Club" - but when I actually asked the question in the "Coffin Club" I definitely found no open mind at all. If someone is basically treated as a mental patient (or one who should be) for stating in passing that he's YEC and that he thinks Egyptian chronology is inflated, that's not what I would call an open mind!

7:38 There are no alternative archaeologists?

Ron Wyatt and David Fasold are not alternative? Or they are not doing any kind of archaeology at all?

Yes, they are, on both counts.

7:48 "for otherwise it's not archaeology"

That was clarifying on the usage, and so much for the "open mind" .... besides, that's discrediting Schliemann!

19:06 meltwater pulse (1A?) 14 000 years ago - carbon dated?

If so, I go to my tables and do this:

(11 888 + 11 888 + 11 888 + 12 611)/4 = 12 069 BC (carbon dated)

(2688 + 2688 + 2688 + 2711)/4 = 2694 BC (for real)

19:15 meltwater pulse 1B, 11 600 to 11 000 years ago (9600 to 9000 BC) ...

From death of Noah to midway in Babel, Nimrod could realistically claim (if he was intending, very clumsily, a rocket project) "we need to get to Heaven, the part about God not flooding us again seems to be unreliable" ... the actual dates would be between 2607 and 2585 BC. And the motivation I attribute to Nimrod corresponds to what Josephus thought about him.

20:29 between "12 000 BC" and "9000 BC" - that is actually between 2694 and 2585 BC. In 109 years.

For people living the ages early post-Flood patriarchs were living, this would have been within living memory, very clearly.

20:36 Between 13 000 and 12 000 BC, 30 m.

(13 333 + 13 333 + 13 333 + 12 611 + 12 611)/5 = 13 044 BC

(2733 + 2733 + 2733 + 2711 + 2711)/5 = 2724 BC.

2724 - 2694 = 30 years = 1 m/year.

2724 - 2585 = 139 years, 50 m.

An average of 36 cm / year, with most of the rise as rapidly as 1 m / year.

20:53 9000 - 6000 BC, 50 m.

2585 BC - 2287 BC = 298 years.

50/298 = an average of 168 mm per year.

On your view, speeding up a bit, on my recalibration calming down quite a lot.

Near the beginning of this, at the birth of Peleg, Göbekli Tepe is abandoned, as languages are split up and the international collaboration is made impossible.

21:26 Science should always be open to new evidence - but is it?

21:42 "they will absolutely take this seriously"

I claim to have new evidence about how a Biblical chronology can be shown credible within its proper carbon 14 calibration.

• A) I made a calibration which initially involved no higher production speed than 25 times present production and now improved versions of it involve no higher production speed than 10~11 times the present production of carbon 14, one of the hurdles to the scenario I had got from Creationist Edgar Andrews being orally to me dismissed as involving so much radioactivity all life but spiders would perish. I claim the 10 times higher production speeds involve the reason for human lifespans sinking in the post-Flood era, and for the ice age, at least one of the reasons. That it takes only 10~11 times the production speed, and that this gives a good scenario for the ice age, is not previously reviewed.
• B) I have also tested this calibration time after time to see it involves no absurdity. For instance, if a certain part of archaeology was speeded up to 10 times as fast, it might involve the absurdity of population growth more reminiscent of an episode in Star Trek than of actual human reproduction rates (even with unlimited land to spread out to). This has not happened. Other parts of archaeology can very certainly be speeded up ten times or more, without any absurdity. Were 50 000 BP to 39 000 BP just a few centuries before the Flood? I think that's quite feasible. The one part where I am less certain of feasibility, is the area around 30 000 BP. I think that can be fixed by it taking some time after the Deluge for carbon 14 production to be reflected - or by reservoir effect. My least confident example so far are the Mladec caves, I think there is calcary there and so the reservoir effect is feasible.

On this note, the reservoir effect involves carbon from present years mixing with carbon from previous centuries. In Portugal you have had coastdwellers misdated to pre-Columbian times, because of fish and shellfish diet. In their case, it's just carbon that had longer time for decay of carbon 14, in the case of the Mladec cave, we would deal with carbon from before the recent rises.

Where and how do I get in touch with archaeologists who will certainly take this seriously?

Need I take down the blogs where I claimed so, submit to peer review in secret, and just hope they will take it seriously? I don't feel confident in that tactic.

22:30 A go fund me might be an idea to pay Ilya Usoskin to computer model scenarios leading to 10~11 times faster production speed, to check if any given scenario (like twice more particles, twice more energy per incoming particle, three times weaker magnetic field) will have the asset of not having too great milliSievert load per year for creatures to survive that a few centuries, but still incite faster mutations.

But making an extra graph once the archaeologists have left the field and are back in the institution, with my calibration for one graph as well as the uniformitarian one, is hardly an insuperable workload.

Nevertheless, I have met no interest, either from Colin Renfrew or his successors, nor from the Egyptologists in the Coffin Club. They had more interest in getting me to look for help than in helping my research. Not even so much as with a single bit of already available information which they would just have needed to look up. It took me a few weeks or months to find the carbon dates for at least Djoser's and Senusret III's tombs.

What I alluded to:

On the Coffin Club intermezzo:

1 (FB blog) Carbon Dated Egyptology? Coffin Club didn't want to tell How Much! 2 Coffin Club as Mute as a Grave on my Question 3 Third time over? 4 (correspondence blog) Debating Manners and Priorities with a Psychology Minded Person

On my tables:

Creation vs. Evolution : New Tables
https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2020/08/new-tables.html

On Ilya Usoskin's refusal to test:

Correspondence of Hans Georg Lundahl : Other Check on Carbon Buildup
https://correspondentia-ioannis-georgii.blogspot.com/2017/11/other-check-on-carbon-buildup.html