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Thursday, December 7, 2023
In Answer to Tim Alberta
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Why White evangelicals continue to support Donald Trump
MSNBC | 5 Dec. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvkHKsM9vsU
Speaking of your credibility as a witness to the outside world ... try to get a pro-life politician going in 2024. If you don't like Trump, get someone else, but don't endorse Biden's "pro-choice" that is pro-death stances.
3:11—3:30 "... if you are a churchgoing Evangelical Christian, and you are taught, you are discipled, in the Church, to realise that partisan politics are not the end-all be-all, that that is ultimately not the arena where you are called to invest all of your passions, but, abortion for many of these folks, is not a political issue"
Catholics would typically agree with them.
I am a Catholic.
There are issues where Catholics can disagree, like on taxation policies or what options the school system offers ... but there are also issues where a state has no right to its policy if it's a wrong one.
Abortion, enforced schooling in not explicitly Christian, which mostly will mean de facto non-Christian, schools, and so on, putting certain ethnicities into camps with insufficient means to live (Jews in Auschwitz or Palestinians in Gaza), those are things to oppose, and one is called to oppose, whereever else one may stand on politics.
5:21 As a Catholic, I believe that Catholic nations have been living in a special relation with God over centuries.
I believe part of the Great Commission was to make not just covenant souls, but covenant nations.
Including governments, typically kings and emperors, who were publically Christian, who were publically and legally translating Christian values into state policy.
5:33 "That is blatantly anti-Biblical"
Is it? Tim's emphasis is not a Bible verse.
6:02 We cannot merge heaven and an earthly kingdom, but an earthly kingdom very certainly can be in a vassal relationship to the kingdom with its capital one light day above earthly Jerusalem, I'd say, and ideally should. When this is not the case, one should at least fight to retain good laws from such times.
8:27 Fear not is certainly a command.
It does not follow from it one can debunk legitimate aspirations about legislation because part of the grievances can be analysed as "rooted in fear" ....
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