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Monday, January 15, 2024
Why I Care About Palestine ...
A pretty probably competent tourist guide (on my view less competent historian) is asking ten questions to pro-Palestinians. I think the first one is the most important one.
10 Questions PRO-Palestinians Can’t Answer (Can You Prove Me Wrong?)
travelingisrael.com | 13 Jan. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W9badc-Y9M
0:38 Yemen is Joctan. Palestine is, precisely like Israel, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
As for Syria, I did definitely care both when ISIS and when Bashir / Putin were around doing atrocities. I'm not saying there are no atrocities now, but not on the same rhythm as Gaza.
And one more thing about Yemen. I prefer caring about issues I have a clue about. The one in Yemen is a bit too messy, I don't really have all that much to say. There isn't much news coverage.
In fact, Rivarol, a French Right Wing paper, a weekly, that I highly like on most if not all topics, did a good article on Yemen. Even they didn't manage to explain the situation to make me able to take any sides.
In Palestine, let's be clear, my side is Christian Palestinians first, Jews second, Muslim Palestinians third. All three have ancestry from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, all three come from Second Temple Jews, and so arguably do the Druz, as I just learned from an article of the Sindone of Turin, Our Lord's DNA (the one that wasn't contamination) was compatible with the Druz population.
If we take the genome from Tell Abil Bet Ma’aka, Bronze Age II B, in zone O, Samarians are top match, Christian Palestinians second, Muslim Palestinians ten or fifteen down, two Druz populations and a few Jewish populations in between. Now, you could say that genome was of a Canaanean. You could say, that was before Joshua took the land. I disagree, both on when the Exodus was, and how carbon dating works. Exodus in 1511 BC + carbon dates back then still c. 100 years too early = Bronze Age II B starts about with the arrival of Joshua.
But even if you disagree, the most probable source of Canaanean genome today would be through Israelites who had married with Canaaneans. So, the Palestinians are Israelites. At least the Fellagha population.
Btw, if you would like to say that Palestinians came from the Arabic Peninsula, that's a match for c. 7 % of their genome, so, mostly, they descend from those who lived in the Holy Land before. That's not to be gathered from a list of governments, as for instance an Arab can live here under a Turkish government. It's also not to be gathered from a people speaking Arabic. After the Muslim conquest, there was a pretty heavy pressure on Muslims to adopt it, and after the Countercrusade on Christians too. The Palestinians who speak Arabic descend from Palestinians who spoke Aramaic, like the people in the Holy Land 2000 years ago. An Irishman isn't an Anglo-Saxon just because he's born in an Englishspeaking family and had bad grades in Gaelic, to take a more recent exemple. And Herzog doesn't have 16 great-great-grandparents born in the Holy Land just because he speaks Hivrit instead of Yiddish from childhood. To take another example. Even more recent.
Jackpot. Chaim Herzog was not born in the Holy Land, but in Belfast ....
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