How I Got ChatGPT to Admit God Exists
Morgan Dubie | 25 May 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QARFiIY01LI
Ha, Miss or Madame Dubie!
I'm here from AronRa's video. You are wrong on the number of books in the Bible.
It's 72, or 73 if Baruch is counted separately from Jeremias. The distance from Beroea (Veria in modern Greek) to Thessaloniki (Thessalonica in the Bible) is 73 km as in 73 (or 72) books overall, and it's 45 miles, as in 45 (or 46) OT books. The Bible doesn't exhaustively tell us which books it contains, but it does give a good hint at their number if you check Acts about Beroea and the Epistles about Thessalonica.
2:56 No, not circular reasoning, just a lack of distinction intended to give the impression that the Bible is self refuting.
God is not a man, that he should lie, nor as the son of man, that he should be changed. Hath he said then, and will he not do? hath he spoken, and will he not fulfill?
[Numbers 23:19]
Two distinctions to make.
a) God was not a man yet, and even when He became man, it was not in order to lie.
b) While men contrast with God on being prone to lying, it doesn't mean all men lie and especially not that all who lie never repent or stop lying.
In logic, there is no such thing as "circular reasoning", there is "vicious circle of proof" and "vicious circle of definition" which could be extended to involve "vicious circle of causation" (Munchhausen pulling himself up from the swamp by pulling his ponytail) and "vicious circle of explanation" (there are other explanations than just proof and definition).
None of these vicious circles should be confused with any of the other and none of them should be diagnosed just because there is a circularity in the rhetoric. Which was all there was in AronRa's quoted statement.
4:06 Who commandeth the sun and it riseth not: and shutteth up the stars as it were under a seal:
[Job 9:7]
Job prophecied how Joshua's long day would look from the Americas.
4:15 AronRa's presuming Heliocentrism has been proven. Hasn't.
- alekoper
- @alekoperr
- Excuse me?
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @alekoperr He - li - o - cen -trism.
Aron Ra thinks it has been proven.
It has not.
4:23 Gyros in LXX means "circumference" ... both spheres and discs have that.
Continents have corners. Four main ones if you look on a globe. Can you spot them? They all touch the Pacific.
5:01 Someone pretended Homer was going psychedelic when he described the sea as "winecoloured" ... poetry doesn't need to be non-factual, and when red wine leaves stains on white linen, the stains after washing are blue. Winecoloured is very exact about the sea, when it's lighter sea blue in the sunshine.
6:09 I would not bet on the things in Job being purely metaphoric, though obviously there is a kind of wooden literalism which falls pretty flat ... but not because Job is poetic.
6:37 Edgar Allan Poe possibly aggregates metaphors, like Biblical poetry aggregates facts.
8:44 Do you think Chat GPT understands any of this? Think again.
It's basically a plagiarising machine, so it has gone to verse by verse exegeses commonly found on the internet.
9:09 Whoever ChatGPT plagiarised, said "with celestial beings" (a k a angels) "participating in the celebration."
Very correctly so.
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