Saturday, July 12, 2025

Tovia Singer Considered Christianity a False Religion Close Enough to the True One for Certain Purposes


Well, if it's close enough to the true one, why isn't it the true one? But details, see below:


Why Did God Contribute to the Success of Christianity?
Tovia Singer | 9 July 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQHslgvSkkU


2:29 Without false religion, there is no freewill?

Are you even remotely serious?

Does the true religion per definition take away freewill once it's accepted?

3:17 Is "immediately" concluded from bappaam in verse 21 same chapter 16 of Jeremias?

I could interpret it as "this time" = "not that other time (i e Babel, Genesis 11)" and Jeremias 16 fits what Christianity did.

People after people actually did say "we have inherited lies and vanity" ...

3:49 We hold that Jesus' physical body is the Third Temple.

It is accessible in the Eucharist.

He could worship the Father inside the Second Temple. We can have Him worship the Father inside us.

5:00 Qualification.

We believe that, up to Golgotha:

  • Second Temple Judaism was perfectly true in its public and common tenets
  • Samaritanism was nearly true, with some false parts
  • the other teachers of Second Temple Judaism, apart from Jesus, were each wrong on some point, not necessarily the same for Pharisees who weren't disciples and for Sadducees, and not necessarily the same between different Pharisees who weren't disciples. The exception we would pose is Gamaliel, and I support the tradition that Sts. Paul and Barnabas prayed for their former teacher, and he died a Christian.


We do NOT believe that what you call Judaism was true. We do not believe it even existed. Your blatant misreading of Isaias 53 would have been impossible if it hadn't been for Jews before that already rejecting the true Messias.

One recent convert from Judaism said, when he took a look at the history of Judaism, the further back he went, Talmud rather than Maimonides, Mishna rather than Gemarah, perhaps he considered certain books we Catholics accept as "Jewish writings from the intertestamental period" and looked at them too, the less he recognised tenets of current Orthodox Judaism, and the more he recognised tenets of Christianity, like Hell exists and things like that.

I obviously agree.

5:20 If Jesus wasn't the Messias, Judaism wouldn't be true either, since the Old Covenant with the Temple Sacrifices was taken away with no sacrifice to replace it.

For these things were done, that the scripture might be fulfilled: You shall not break a bone of him.
John 19:36

In the English translation, that scripture in the OT has "bone of it" ... St. John says the Crucifixion fulfilled the Paschal Lamb. And therefore all the other sacrifices.

If there is no one true Church that would falsify Christianity since it is against the promise of Matthew 28:20.

So, the Old Covenant cannot be the true religion after year 70. The New Covenant couldn't be the true religion if the true Church had disappeared and had to be reconstructed by prophecies or Bible studies rather than simply inherited from the Apostles.

6:02 You pretend the Trinity heretical?

I'll cite Michael Heiser for you, even if he belonged to a heretical version of Christianity:

Twenty-five years ago, rabbinical scholar Alan Segal produced what is still the major work on the idea of two powers in heaven in Jewish thought. Segal argued that the two powers idea was not deemed heretical in Jewish theology until the second century C.E. He carefully traced the roots of the teaching back into the Second Temple era (ca. 200 B.C.E.). Segal was able to establish that the idea’s antecedents were in the Hebrew Bible, specifically passages like Dan 7:9ff., Exo 23:20-23, and Exo 15:3. However, he was unable to discern any coherent religious framework from which these passages and others were conceptually derived. Persian dualism was unacceptable as an explanation since neither of the two powers in heaven were evil. Segal speculated that the divine warrior imagery of the broader ancient near east likely had some relationship.


7:44 Rather, Jesus is the fulfilment of the Sabbath, and Jesus is celebrated on Sundays because of the Resurrection.

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