Those are not quite the same story. Researching the answers, I came to the wiki article Wives of Muhammad
I reverted to Islam, neither for a man, nor by force! 😌 Being a convert isn't easy.
Morgan Miller Reverted Muslimah | 15 July 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwDfdvZ5OR4
My main reason for being neither Muslim, nor Mormon is, Matthew 28:16 to 20.
Jesus stated, in your terms, He was founding the FINAL Ummah.
Note, the word prophet means two very different things for a Christian. One is, you were part of the gradual revelation leading up to Christ. Like Moses codified Genesis and received many revelations about God's justice. Or Isaias foretold Christ. Or Jeremias foretold the shift in covenants. In that sense (and that would be the one relevant for your "Prophet") there are no prophets after Christ.
The other sense is, you do miracles and foretell current events or perhaps end times events, even, but when it comes to doctrine, you don't actually add anything. In this way, there are prophets after Christ, like St. Bridget of Sweden or like St. Catherine of Siena or like the children of Fatima (the city is named after a Moorish princess converting to Christianity and she had obviously been named after Mohammed's daughter with Hadidja).
0:46 I have a tendency not to bring up Aisha.
IF I want to make a point about his love life, it's more Zaynab bint Jahsh.
Forcing a stepson to divorce his wife so you can marry her yourself is ... well, to put it mildly ... overbearing.
I have a tendency, when I want to argue about why two religions are false, to compare them to each other, rather than bring up the love lifes of their founders. The other one was founded by Joseph Smith.
1:30 No. Children were considered as having "the age of reason" at age 7.
The specific meaning of "age of reason" is, you are responsible for your life under the guidance of someone else, like your parents. Before the age of reason, you cannot go to Hell. You can go to the limbus infantum if you aren't baptised, but you can't commit a mortal sin, so you cannot go to eternal flames.
In more secular terms, that was when you could enter an apprenticeship and also an engagement to be married later on.
If your knowledgeable text book says otherwise, it's not so knowledgeable.
The age where you could marry, according to a Papal decree from the 12th C. I think, was "14 / 12" ... 14 years for the husband, 12 years for the wife. These limits were from time to time ignored, but less and less, even before the Renaissance.
1:34 "in the Crusades by 9 years old"
Either you speak of the Children's Crusade, which was illegal, or you speak of younger siblings going with their older brothers. Or pages going with knights.
(7 to 14, page. 14 to 24, squire. 24, possibly, knight.)
1:57 Adolescence, you have a valid point.
Postponing marriage to 18 or 21, obligatorily for both sexes, that's a modern thing, in the US from the Progressive era. France allowed girls of 15 to marry up to 2006. That had been higher since Napoleon, before that it had been 12, as per Medieval canon law.
4:24 ONE of his wives was older. TWO actually.
Hadidja. 16 years older. Sawdah bint Zam'ah was 4 years older.
Zaynab [bint Jahsh] was 20 years younger than Mohammed, born 590 resp 570 in the Years of our Lord.
Hafsa, Umm-al-Masakin, Umm-Salama, Juwayriya bint al-Harith, Umm Habiba, Safiyya bint Huyayy, Maymunah bint al-Harith, are all younger than Mohammed, one by as much as 40 years.
Rayhana bint Zayd and Maria al-Qibtiyya don't have birth years listed.
For Aisha, the common opinion is, she was born 44 years after Mohammed, the marriage contract was signed when she was 6 and consummated when she was 9.
I note that in Medieval Europe, she could have been engaged at age 7 and wed and consummated at age 12, so, this is not at all my main objection to Islam.
You object that she is listed as a convert, doesn't really fit with her father being Abu Bakr, one of the first companions, around 613, the year before she is usually believed to have been born, and her mother being Umm Ruman, the woman that Abu Bakr married after converting and divorcing his first wife who didn't convert.
You also pretend that Mohammed wasn't all that interested in having sex with his wives, let's take Hadidja, the oldest of them, sixteen years older than he:
The couple had two sons, Qasim and Abd Allah, and four daughters, Zaynab, Ruqayya, Umm Kulthum and Fatima. In the aftermath of Muhammad's first revelation, Khadija is credited to have been the first convert to Islam.
4:36 For Sawdah, you seem to have a point, she had six children before but none with Mohammed.
Nor, seemingly, had Aisha. Nor Umm Salama, who had children with her first husband. Nor Zaynab bint Jahsh. Nor Juwayriya bint al-Harith. Nor Umm Habiba who had a son with her first husband.
Nor Safiyya bint Huyayy, though a consummation is attested by hadiths about the idda.
Nor Maymunah bint al-Harith, nor Rayhana bint Zayd.
With Maria al-Qibtiyya, Mohammed had a son who died at age 2.
So, Ibrahim proves, Mohammed didn't run into an incurable fertility problem after Hadidja died. One explanation could be, Mohammed really had very Platonic relations mostly with his wives. Or not quite natural ones. Or, the children were simply not acknowledged by later Qalifs.
I actually do not know.
See also:
Shot by Family for Following Jesus — An Ex-Muslim Tells All
Son of the Most High | 16 July 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5priJf_Bie8
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