Ascension and Geocentrism (Contra Ortlund and Torrence)

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The Ascension of Christ is stranger than you think
Gavin Ortlund | 28 July 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDTKaRQu-0

Jesus' body is in Heaven. Physically.

An excellent reason to be Geocentric.

Beyond the sphere of the fix stars, there is a place that's sometimes referred to as Empyrean Heaven, and it's inhabitable, though not for long for mortals, though the parallel to the third heaven is not exact:

I know a man in Christ above fourteen years ago (whether in the body, I know not, or out of the body, I know not; God knoweth), such a one caught up to the third heaven.

Moon, Mercury, Venus. Or Moon, Venus, Mercury. So, sphere of Mercury or of Venus is where St. Paul presumably went (basically no one thinks he spoke of someone else).

Jesus is there, living like we do, except for the differences He showed the 40 days after Resurrection.

I would also say:

The Empyrean Heaven is one light day up, Jesus travelled up 1/10 of the speed of light, and on the tenth day He told the Holy Spirit Who didn't need any travel time at all, and He was straight on the people assembled in the upper room. While Jesus remained up there.

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No, the Body did NOT depart this Space Time Universe.

He did NOT "go to the father" in the sense of being "resumed in the Holy Trinity" He had never left it.

He DID go to the father in the throne room witnessed by was it Ezechiel or Daniel. That throne room, a reception place for creatures closest to Him, being in the Empyrean Heaven. Outside and above the Fix stars, arguably the same coordinates in the Empyrean as Jerusalem is on earth.