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Monday, July 27, 2026
FSSPX Does Not Equal Sedevacantism or Conclavism, There is a Difference of Approach
The German Bishops & Whataboutism
Christine Niles | 27 July 2026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJjS8sqjLnc
1:02 Nuance.*
If you can be legally deposed in due form in theory, and the guy who can do it (a k a the Pope) is in contact with you, like modern communications allow, at least since the telephone, well, you do not lose your office automatically for promoting heresy. This is the case at least since the 1917 code, which on this point a certain Fr. Paul Natterer, back then FSSPX, quoted on a four part Lenten sermons series entitled "Wie müssen wir zum Pabst stehen".
Why? Because the Pope can supply the jurisdiction that ontologically would be missing from your own person, if you are outside the Church, and therefore, the automatic deposition is suspended, so to say, until you are legally deposed, and then he steps in and sees that none of your nominations to a parish, none of your admissions to matrimony, are disasters due to your heresy.
Or dito if you're just a parish priest and your superior who can depose you is the bishop or his superior an archbishop.
This is not the text itself in the canon, but it is my theological analysis of it given, as per St. Robert Bellarmine and Pope St. Coelestine I in 430, that a man cannot be head of what he is not even a member of.
However, this practical solution doesn't work in case of a person assuming and assumed to hold Papacy, if he's promoting heresy. Therefore this, as it really is, exception, is inapplicable.
3:09 "Because they think that the Roman Pontiff has lost the faith"
Wojtyla, Ratzinger, Bergoglio and so far Prevost has not clearly broken the trend, they have put up a very good show of losing the faith since 1992.
For Assisi 86, that could be a one time thing. But the 1992 speech was immediately backed up with § 283 of the CCC. It remains in the second edition. 2002.
His successors have not taken a distance from that.
Therefore, the huge doctrinal weakness of SSPX is believing, like Salza, promoting heresy does not lose you your office. Like ever, even outside circumstances when a superior could in theory easily step in.
* 0:55 to 1:02 "someone doesn't lose his office or his jurisdiction, even if he's publically promoting heresy, as the German bishops are."
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