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Thursday, October 9, 2025
Avi Yemini has a point
THE REAL GENOCIDE the media REFUSES to cover
Avi Yemini | 9 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhqpgb0IA1I
If your action in Gaza looked less like a genocide or ideally not at all, perhaps you would be better placed to help the Druz.
I think it was months ago, before Sumud launched, that I stated:
1) make peace with Palestinians
2) then enjoy God's blessing to defend the Druz, or the Christians in Syria or whoever.
So has Greta:
BREAKING: Greta Thunberg Alleges Israeli Detention Abuse Amid Gaza Aid Mission
Cross World News | 8 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_unQhcpXyjs
7:11 And told us several times, they were going to gas us ...
I wonder if the NS guards in Auschwitz ever used that tactic ... like Jo Wajsblat getting into an alleged gas chamber with 50 or 49 others, and then Joseph Mengele getting in apparently over-excited and shouting "this is an error, alle raus!" ... was Mengele planning to?
Wednesday, October 8, 2025
Greta? Our greta-st export at the moment?
Greta Thunberg desperately claps back after Donald Trump’s savage criticism
Sky News Australia | 8 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr1SVU8gJYc
I note, the main news story on this issue is, Trump's peace plan is going forward.
I note, even so, Sky News Australia had to put the title about Greta Thunberg.
I note the comments are about, seeing the featured ones below, 1) Greta's mom, 2) The doom goblin (aka Greta), 3) Greta's life, 4) the lithium battery in her cell phone (and the waters were international, so, an act of piracy occurred while she was throwing it), 5) Greta as a Swedish export, 6) Phones again, 7) Her parents.
Only 8) we have Donald Trump, and the comment "Donald Trump is right" doesn't specify whether the commenter means about Greta or about Gaza.
By contrast, Greta has consistently taken attention she got, and redirected it to Gaza.
The longest speech in the clips in the video was a man gassing on about Greta.
As a Swede whose grandmother was named Greta (mormor, not farmor, if Swedes wonder) and as Pro-Palestinian, I find all the attention given to Greta somewhat flattering to my national pride.
Tuesday, October 7, 2025
On Apocalypse
The Apocalypse: The Mark of the Beast, Revelation, and the Orthodox Church
Theoria | 1 April 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcHcdOGh9Lc
You are confusing pre-millennialism with "scripture taken literally whereever possible" ..
Pre-Millennialism may be refuted by cuius regni non erit finis, or it may not (in pre-millennialism, presumably the end of the thousand years is an interruption, not an end, of Christ's rule over earth).
But Biblical literalism (which is not the same thing as rejecting the allegoric sense) is not refuted by qui locutus est per prophetas.
Taking the mark of the beast is primarily becoming complicit in a conspiracy of evil, but it can also involve taking up a kind of badge. If keeping God's commandments on forehead and right hand means meditating and acting on God's law, and nevertheless Jews add tephilim, so also, Antichrist's followers could add something visible to the opposite. It would be somewhat difficult to deny customers service or merchandise on its absence if it were purely spiritual. Therefore, I think it will or has involved this.
Given medical professionals swear by Apollo, and the five cases of Apollo in Classic Attic and Koiné add up to 2666, I'd not want medical attributes on my face or hands (like masks or gloves) or a medical attestation given in a cell-phone held, usually, in the right hand.
4:57 While there may no doubt be numerological symbolism, a certain man is said to be identified by gematria. Involving that precise number.
5:09 I would say that chapter 20 starts in AD 33 (as one usually cites the year of Our Lord's crufixion).
It is highly possible that more things are concurrent rather than follow each other chronologically, for instance the fifth seal martyrs, I believe began also with AD 33 or 34 when St. Stephen was killed.
There is a dispute whether 3 1/2 years of Apocalypse 11 precede or ran parallel with those of Antichrist.
There may be disputes on how far on into action the harlot "falls" and what this fall means ... whatever that is, it is some community containing real faithful, like the Neo-Babylonian Empire at a point mentioned by Jeremias and Isaias contained real Jews. So, it will look externally and even doctrinally somewhat closely like the real Church. If it's a movement endorsed by Her, well, it's probably not Fascism, because that ended too soon (modern anti-immigrationism is a different matter).
5:18 Yeah, lets.
Babylonian languages Sumerian and Akkadian were still studied around the time when St. John was on Patmos. If we suppose a "times" sign is roughly rectangular, 12X12,000 looks roughly like a fish. 144,000 looks like four corners ... an item also mentioned in Apoc. 7.
To me this means, the four corners are points outside which you don't need anything like spaceships, but on the contrary fishing boats. I identify them as Alaska, Siberia, SW Australia, Cape Horn.
Speaking of spaceships, in Babylonian numerals, a spaceship / rocket and a syringe looks like 666.
5:31 Let's take the text literally, if we can, shall we:
And I heard the number of them that were signed, an hundred forty-four thousand were signed, of every tribe of the children of Israel
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 7:4]
Presumably, this is not "every tribe" as in Samarians or Lost Tribes, but "every tribe" as in refugees from Assyria coming to Jerusalem, so, it refers to Jews, and the signing is the Baptism and Confirmation of them, as they convert. And not the total of conversions, but a specific endtimes conversion.
These are they who were not defiled with women: for they are virgins. These follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were purchased from among men, the firstfruits to God and to the Lamb
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 14:4]
We celebrate lots fewer monks than that in the Martyrology, so, it is possible this is the total of monks who went to heaven directly, because of monastic virtues. It's also possible each of these monk saints is the heavenly "sponsor" for one of the converts.
6:36 I will not say St. Andrew was wrong, he is a Catholic saint too, but the totality of the Church would seem to be mentioned after the 144,000 in words like:
After this I saw a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne, and in sight of the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands And they cried with a loud voice, saying: Salvation to our God, who sitteth upon the throne, and to the Lamb
[Apocalypse (Revelation) 7:9-10]
7:14 My issue with Darby is:
Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air, and so shall we be always with the Lord
[1 Thessalonians 4:16]
This seems to imply that the raptured ones don't leave people behind, but are left behind after persecutions have made the rest martyrs or apostates.
In other words, praying seriously to be raptured would involve praying to live through those terrible 3 1/2 years.
7:35 Well, Tim LaHaye was certainly NOT instructive on how to get the gematria of a name.
Nicolae Jetty Carpathia doesn't add up to 666 in ASCII, see here:
C 67
A 65 120 12
R 82 200 14
P 80 280 14
A 65 340 19
T 84 420 23
H 72 490 25
I 73 560 28
A 65 620 33 = 653
Let's try an Albam on it, since an Albam of uneven number of letters will displace by a non-zero since uneven multiple of 13.
ABCDEFGHIJKLM
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ
CP 80
AN 78 150
RE 69 210 17
PC 67 270 24
AN 78 340 32
TG 71 410 33
HU 85 490 38
IV 86 570 44
AN 78 640 52 = 692, displaced by 39 upwards, which is 3*13, not by 1*13.
Nope, the Beast won't be named Carpathia. Or at least that name will not be the one he's recognised by.
8:15 If the thousand years started in AD 33, it was rectified, Palestinians being Christian Jews and Christian Samaritans of the First Century, plus descendants.
The Catholic Palestinian is formally an Israelite by being Catholic, materially an Israelite by descending from First Century Jews.
9:12 I would say Apocalypse 11 gives a hint on Geopolitics.
Jerusalem is at that point, and this seems to concur with recent events, "spiritually Sodom and Egypt" ... in Jerusalem it is easier to say in public you are "gay" than saying you support Palestinians against the oppression.
I expect, Henoch and Elijah are likely to turn up when Greta and Rima stop. Or are stopped.
10:36 You forget that 8 denotes completion of a cycle, and so 888 denotes a perfect completion. The perfect 8th Day of Creation.
However, you also have a very straightforward gematria on IHCOYC which gives 888 in Greek.
I 010
H 008 018
C 200 218
O 070 288
Y 400 688
C 200 888
[tried to add:]
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. An end-times expecting Catholic is an 8th Day Adventist.
11:56 How does 1260 refer to the factors of the 666 triangle?
12:47 People chose to:
- get vaccinated
- with a vaccine which, so far all versions on the market, had the virus cultivated from human fetal cells obtained from an abortion (not a necessity for all vaccinations, one could cultivate on renal or liver cells from beasts or on human tumour cells, plus vaccinations against bacteria don't even need that, just a petri dish with sugars ... sth which won't cultivate a virus)
- and show up with a vaccination status on their cell phone (CELLPHONE adds up to 666) in order to get into some shops or access some services
- and to discriminate against people who were suddenly viewed as callous because they refused to.
All of above, except the first (like vaccinating against the plague, yersinia gets cultivated on a petri dish, older vaccination against small pox, liver cells from bovines were the support for viruses) are morally incriminating.
13:00 The reign of the Church of Christ in heaven over events that still involve souls to be saved is a literal time period, and 1000 years could by now be the literal medium regnal term of a saint.
2025 - 34 = 1991 (St. Stephen)
2025 - 2016 = 9 (Sister Clare Crockett)
(1991 + 9) / 2 = 1000
13:15 Or, 1000 years = time between each saint's ascent into Heaven and return to their bodies, while their Lord returns to judge.
In that case, 1000 could be the medium length, very literally.
14:40 On the individual level, it is conditional.
On the collective level, it is perpetual and indefectible. Deuteronomy 28 has "if you will" and Matthew 28 has "I will be with you" ... the New Israel is there to the end of time (also a good reason against poor John Nelson Darby).
16:15 Dito for Catholics.
[On liturgy and Apocalypse]
18:18 Would you mind pointing to a Church Father (including but not limited to Popes) or a (Pope or) Church Council which endorses what "we are supposed to take away from it" on your view?
IF Israel was behind a death (saying IF, not THAT)
Here are some few questions by which Allie Beth Stuckey finds fault with Candace's theory. And similar. Not saying it is or they are correct, but some of these questions could be answered.
Breaking the Silence on Theories Surrounding Charlie Kirk's Death
Allie Beth Stuckey Clips and 2 other(s) | 7 oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CKzQw-h5tM
Here are my answers:
0:11 Because he wasn't any more? Of Israel, that is.
0:17 Because they feared Charlie might sway Donald against them?
0:24 Would Israel really risk ...?
Given how the American Pro-Israel Right is backing Israel against Candace, they may have been right in their calculation of the risks.
0:40 A way that an internet sleuth can figure out is not a sign of "very stupid" given the internet allows such content providers good content to provide their theories from.
One can very well be deft, and still highly misjudge stakes. Satan (at the beginning and against Christ), Nimrod, Antiochus Epiphanes, and upcoming Antichrist will, all of them, have been very sly, and still have shown extremely bad judgement, been as unforeseeing about their doom as Goliath was about David.
Do you recall a comment in Prince Caspian about some giants being good (refers at least to St. Christopher in real life) but none being very clever? Goliath wasn't very clever. But, some people who are very clever are as unwise as he.
1:17 Most of those who try to influence American media haven't kidnapped Eichmann from a state legally providing him asylum.
Mossad did so from Argentina, and Reader's Digest made an article about it (that's how I know, Reader's Digest being a precursor of the internet in some ways).
1:20 China and Russia probably could not afford to take someone out who was going against them ... when someone goes against Israel, that's a gamechanger.
1:53 Apart from this being a superficial analysis, China and Russia taking US criticism as "business as usual" and Israel not finding it business as usual, also consider occasion.
Israel had people who hadn't gone Charlie's turnaround on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and they were even so still close enough to Charlie.
2:12 Are you aware that Bibi Netanyahu could be facing criminal charges the moment he steps back from presidency and so he has an incentive to keep the war going and an incentive to keep the US supporting it?
5:59 Here is a thing that doesn't add up.
The bullet that Charlie allegedly stopped isn't produced.
- Chichi Acevedo
- @chichiacevedo
- The bullet was taken from his body. Which is something that you're supposed to do in a homicide investigation....and will be tested alongside other bullets from the gun. So why would they produce a crucial piece of evidence that is needed for ( oh no common sense here) an active homicide investigation with an active criminal proceeding
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @chichiacevedo If you are right, I heard a false report.
So, the thing is it will be tested. This may be why some thought it hadn't been produced.
Do you have a source?
6:20 Did the coroner find the bullet?
There was anyway news it hadn't been produced.
7:12 Frank Turek knows about me.
He knows I'm trying to make my living as a writer, involving but not limited to Apologetics.
He also knows I stand against his acceptance, if not direct endorsement, of Old Earth Creationism, he also knows I'm Catholic.
He also knows, my blogs are published, they are not private blogs you need an invitation to read.
I know he has not lifted a finger, or not to very recently, to avoid the prolongation of the secrecy, in order to make me reconsider before some offer me a platform on their conditions. I can't say I'm confident in Mr. Turek.
7:18 When Dollfuss died, two categories of Nazis were involved in his killing.
1) Mr. Planeta, I think Otto Planeta. He fired the shot and as it was at close range that's not contestable.
2) Some other Nazis who stopped first assistance from arriving to save Engelbert Dollfuss' life. Two of these were executed with Mr. Planeta.
By the way, Dollfuss had time to forgive his killer or killers.
Those Who Doubt That Charlie Kirk Struggled With His Jewish Donors, Don't Know Jewish Donors
Theodore Shoebat | 7 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clG5j67Es5Q
Candace Owens Finally Provides Receipts...
Ruslan KD | 7 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_N4KUoyTZI
Monday, October 6, 2025
Some Guys Mock Greta, I Answer
1) @meirakofficial
UH-OH! Greta Heads To Gaza With 50 Ships (She Might Not Make It Back!)
Bye Bye Greta Thunberg!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6DgI91rKgZA
If you appreciate her entertainment this much, how about telling Itamar Ben Gvir to keep his hands off her, but to release her into Gaza with the next humanitarian aid convoy that actually leaves Israeli army hands?
I don't think Englishmen would have agreed to the government shoving Charlie Chaplin around, or the US with Stanley and Laurel.
- Sven-Erik Sundström
- @sven-eriksundstrom4790
- Yes, the yelling puppy is a Swedish citizen like me and that is embarrassing to me. Brainwashed by SVT and other lying media.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- Is it not embarrassing to you, compatriot, that Itamar Ben Gvir gave her what seems to be a slap if not more?
2) Allah sent her to save Gaza? Watch
Christian Prince | 4 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqDkCISDLbs
As for throwing down ridiculously little milk into the sea ...
Perhaps kind of the point, making governments put pressure on IL to let some real help through?
0:44 Already, total missing of the point, misreading of the story.
"She had a cell phone in the hand, yet she is abducted"
She had a cell phone in the hand when recording the video. She had thrown her cell phone into the sea when Sumud Flotilla released the video. Where is the contradiction, there isn't any.
1:22 I've seen a video of the Flotilla 13 captain making that observation.
When he was in the room in the ship, it was daylight, because through the window, the sea was blue.
When Greta was taken, it was night, because the sky was black and they used a flashlight, a torch to shine on her. Those footages were not taken the same hour. Perhaps also not the same ship.
Either way, you cannot tie "no supplies brought" to Greta, since either her own boat or ship could have had more supplies or the Flotilla 13 Captain had time to empty supplies before making some comedy.
Which people like you fall for.
1:22 bis Perhaps it was Ben Gvir who made the observation about "a few bottles of milk" ... is so, when it was still dark, but even so, when the boat came into the port.
In other words, Israelis had still had time to empty the boat.*
- Everything and More
- @everythingandmore5537
- Israel lost the information war thanks to Greta.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @everythingandmore5537 Yes, I'd say so ...
* 3, but not mocking) Ben Gvir kidnaps people - and films it
The Crispin Flintoff Show | 6 Oct. 2025 UNITED KINGDOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebgZWaSwnjU
[Israelis had still had time to empty the boat or make a mess]
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