Sunday, September 7, 2014

Comments on Steve Cioccolanti's Overview of Nephelim Presence in Modern Culture

Nephilim Among Us - The Gods of Greek, Roman, Norse Mythology, and Astronomy
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Ethiopian or Coptic Church? [Steve hesitated about where Book of Henoch was canonic]

The Ethiopian Church is Coptic. The Bishops of Ethiopia may have one local highest bishop in Ethiopia itself, but their overall highest bishop is the Coptic Pope of Alexandria, residing in Cairo I think.*

Church Latin does not name days on Roman gods, and Icelanding not on Nordic ones.

1 Prima Feria / Dominicus DiesSunnudagurDomingoΚυριακή (Lord's Day, as in Latin)
2 Secunda FeriaMánudagur (first two follow classical system)Segunda-feiraΔευτέρα
3 Tertia FeriaThridjudagurTerça-feiraΤρίτη
4 Quarta FeriaMidvikudagurQuarta-feiraΤετάρτη
5 Quinta FeriaFimmtudagurQuinta-feiraΠέμπτη
6 Sexta FeriaFöstudagur (Fasting Day)Sexta-feiraΠαρασκευή (Day of Preparation, as First Good Friday)
7 Sabbatum / Sabbata / (Feria)Laugardagur (Washing/Bathing Day, to be clean on Sunday)SábadoΣάββατο

28:37 As you mentioned Julius Caesar being a real person ... he was still a Pagan god. So was Augustus. So was Nero. So was Woden too - even if he corresponds to Mercury (whom I would consider a magician rather than necessarily a nephelim per se) he lived lots later. His stepgrandson Fjölner was drowned in a vat of mead/hydromel in the time of Augustus. That was why Fjölner and the rest of the Ynglings were not divinised. Good job, mead vat! The dynasty of Caesar and following dynasties were divinised far later in Rome, up to 313, with some cases of madness as a consequence, Caligula and Heliogabalus being perhaps the most ominous ones.

28:51 Why September is seventh month (etc up to December = 10)?

Why there was a Quinctilis and Sextilis before they were renamed after two early Caesars?

In fact, very early, March was the first month. Winter after December had no months up to March. A bit like nights having in some contexts, unlike twelve hours of day, not twelve hours but four watches. January and February were added, before March, but the last months kept their names.

29:57 Greek Helios like Latin Sol can refer to "son of Hyperion, nephew of Kronos, cousin of Zeus" and would thus be a Nephelim. BUT the primary meaning is actually simply Sun. That is not Genesis 6, that is Genesis 1, Day 4.

30:43 Selene - same comment as for Helios. Daughter of Hyperion - or a Luminary created on Day Four, so a misclaim for any Nephelim posing as such.

30:46 Thor - nephelim? As divinised, Thor was equated with Jupiter or Hercules (because of thunderbolt or because of strength). But he was a son of Odin, stepbrother of Yngwe Frey, step-uncle of above mentioned (or here on comments below mentioned) Fjölner, the guy who drowned in the mead vat.

My hope is the poor guy was not quite ok with his father Odin's charade of posing like a god.

31:00 As to TITAN, by the time of early Church Fathers there was another spelling: TEITAN. Guess what the letter sum in Greek letters is?**

33:14 Iapetus ... anyone consider that Iapheth may have made it unmerited to the renowned men collection of the Nephelim? I think that could be the brother of Shem and Ham.

34:04These guys had help ... ok, spiritual help from demons is one possibility. ANOTHER one is help from memories of pre-flood and even more pre-Babel technology. Transmitted by human tradition. Or reconstructed by human ingenuity.

"We cannot even build a house that lasts ten years"

Not true of our collected technlogical knowhow. We have Churches, some of which have lasted a thousand years or nearly, and we know how they were built. Some palaces and forts have also been longlived. Krak of the Crusaders still stands in place.

The "impossibility" of building to last ten years is partly accidental failures to use knowhow available, but even more so Capitalism - an economy which gives primes on cheap building (also true for the state capitalism called Communism).

35:25 Ramayana - do you consider it as pre-Flood or post-Flood?

For my part I am pretty sure Mahabharata reflects pre-Flood conditions. In somewhat twisted ways, but if you consider its a war between cousin sibling groups, and remember the Kainite dynasty. Lamech would have killed Tubal-Kain after he had caused him to accidentally kill Kain in a hunting accident. (Referring to Sephar haYashar, supposing it might be correct there) That left Jabal and Jubal. If their sons were at war ...?

And Krishna as described in Mahabharata (with exceptions tending to ascribe him godhood) is a human - or a nephelim. His name, like Kush, means black. I find it possible he could have been in the ancestry of Ham's wife.

*I think he resides in Cairo, I know he is considered as highest bishop of all Copts, including Ethiopian ones.

** See 13:18 of Apocalypse, most manuscripts. A k a 18*37, etc.

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