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Friday, January 13, 2023
Fr. Casey's Somewhat Off
Fr. Casey's Somewhat Off · Casey got Galileo Wrong · On Friar Review & Babylon Bee
The Real Christmas Story is Unsettling
Breaking In The Habit | 22 Dec. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkkzmRZnPJE
1:12 Was she walking TO a census or FROM a census?
In Judaea in that year, Romans could no more conduct a census than a US governor could conduct one in Puerto Rico.
Herod's Judaea was a protectorate, not a province - which changed after his or Archelaus' death.
Jews recall a census in Judaea, clearly after when Herod had died and some are now trying to use this to put a conflict between Matthew and Luke Gospel accounts.
Let's say the census was in Syria of which Galilaea was already a part. Now, the Roman Empire involved more than one citizenship. If you were in Pompei, you were a citizen of Pompei and of Rome. If you were a citizen of Nazareth, which St. Joseph apparently wasn't, you were that and a provincial under Rome ... anyway, the idea of conducting the census in your "city" was meaningful. Let's say St Joseph had a bright idea on how to avoid paying taxes to Rome ... Bethlehem was his city and it was not in the Roman province of Syria ...
No Bible passage says they actually met any census officials in Bethlehem - there wouldn't have been any in Herod's day.
By the way, otherwise the child killing would have been impossible, as Roman legions would have stopped it, I suppose ...
90 miles = c. 135 km.
15 km / day = 9 days (She would have been quicker when getting to St. Elizabeth nine months earlier).
3:04 Actually, St. Joseph flees after a dream before all of it gets started.
They hear of it, obviously ... but at a safe distance.
3:11 "unable to speak the dominant language"
In Egypt that would have been Greek.
And in Galilee, where Joseph had been working and the Blessed Virgin would have been living, that would have been a known language. The region of Caesarea Philippi had a history with Hellenics before Philipp the Tetrarch.
So, they would probably not have been unable to speak it - any more than Riqueños are unable to speak English, on arrival.
3:33 "worshipping with people of other religions"
First, it is arguable the Magi were believers in the true God.
Second, there is no indication that the Holy Family worshipped with them.
3:37 And they were not witnessing, but hearing of, genocide.
The life as a refugee could well have included carpentry ... like St. Joseph's first stay in Nazareth would have involved him as migrant worker in Sepporah, probably.
6:51 What do you think of the Polish custom of a place for the unexpected guest?
He could come in from the street and be poor ... and I bet some do so celebrate Christmas in Poland.
am i in a CULT?
Breaking In The Habit | 5 Oct. 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=podCrimQYS0
1:51 Could it possibly be that the sociological and psychological definitions of "cult" are pretty irrelevant to good or bad in morality of groups?
That studying sociology and psychology is a fault in modern seminaries.
There is obviously a different sense of cult too. The guys who believe weird things and this is kept up by a kind of mind control ... after going to a modern seminary, which included sociology and psychology - and some clearly off base observations on the Bible too - are you sure you aren't in a cult?
Removed:
16:40 Let me tell you a little story.
Back in 2001 to 2002, I was a Palmarian. I was so at a distance. But still Palmarian.
For those who were religious over at Palmar de Troya, back then it could have been a very toxic cult.
A few seconds after I left over a quote from their catechism, "the Antichrist sees the world from the fourth dimension, the Vírgen Purísima from the eighth" - and I had gone "wait, St. Augustine says there are THREE dimensions reflective of the Trinity?!!" - that email also told me that both Carmelite friars and Carmelite nuns (they have one order - Carmelites of the Holy Face) had been abused by the man I had called Gregorio XVII.
I never was in that toxic environment, it's just I thought for c. 14 months that that was where the Vatican was. AT LEAST they were Young Earth Creationist. The thing about "four" and "eight" dimensions however set me off at "but NOT Geocentric" ...
Since then, more than one, and some with a connexion to Spain, have considered me as a cult victim.
And in reality, I am to this day impoverished over people instead of getting to print my stuff or such parts of it that they consider OK, trying to "liberate me from a cult" ...
I think people like Spaniards in FSSPX, Spaniards in the Paris archdiocese, and Bergoglio (he's Hispanic too) have contributed to this ... it is a social trap, and my situation looks like "in a cult" - because of the guys who prefer to "liberate me from a cult" over reading me as either instruction or amusement. Or provocation to debate.
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I also think part of it comes from the former Soviet Union, both Ukraine and Russia.
Places where toxic environments like Palmar back before their first "pope" died and rejection of "modern science" - like Heliocentrism-Acentrism, like Deep Space, like Big Bang, Deep Time, Evolution (and obviously psychology) is taken to be equivalents.
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