Wednesday, December 4, 2024
Guess what turned up in my feed?
Guess what turned up in my feed? · Censorship
10 Shocking Signs of Religious Delusion You Need to Know!
No Nonsense Spirituality | Britt Hartley | 21 Sept. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMQBucXEno
Here is my comment, which was immediately censored:
You know what?
I am a Catholic. I am also a writer.
If someone takes on my Catholic writing as "religious OCD", that is a clear violation of my freedom of expression, and of other people's freedom of information.
If people try, again, and again, to "try to break into my bubble" that I've been wasting my life for twenty years as a writer, that is a very clear sign of HOW this has been happening, and also a very clear DISRESPECT for my boundaries.
SOMEONE, not saying it is you, pushed YOUR video into my feed. I clicked.
People with your convictions are not welcome into my life.
People with your convictions who are not welcome into my life are nevertheless intruding time after time.
I try to get some discussion done, in favour of my position, in disfavour obviously of some alternative confession, or alternative view of what is correct Catholicism.
Today, I was doing that under a video by Trent Horn. Do I get a response by Trent Horn? No, not so far. Do I get a response at all? Yes. One which attacks my position in very general terms, and which was totally not adressing the argument I was making. In other words, filibustering to prevent me from either enjoying a discussion or draw conclusions simply from Trent Horn's silence. When I say "attack" I don't mean the tone is aggressive. But two things warrant the description attack.
1) It was a very complete disrespect for YEC.
Even so, it could have been a perfectly honourable and noble attack, I voluntarily expose myself to such on Quora. I enjoy taking people on with that kind of atheistic delusion of grandeur. However, it was such a complete disrespect, that it is nevertheless warranted to speak of an attack.
2) It came at a very inappropriate moment.
It did not come as an answer to what I was actually saying, it answered what I told someone else, it disrupted a discussion I was inviting.
When people of your convictions are both giving this kind of questions on Quora, and giving video suggestions in my feed, and when on top of that, someone is not satisfied with that, but will resort to dragging me from what I was doing, so to speak, into a "private" conversation, I consider that as the kind of harrassment shrinks could resort to.
And shrinks resorting to that are also very good explanation why the guys I'm trying to reach out to, both as audience and as possible partners for publication absent themselves.
Another explanation would of course be that I'm writing so lame nobody bothers to read me, but the statistics of my blogs speak a different language. Hence, that's not a thing I priorise as an explanation.
The person is the umpteenth empty youtube account that turns up on similar business. Pretty blatantly as if some imp of a shrink were well aware he or she is not welcome in my life, and nevertheless decides to not respect that.
1st 1/3 of a Trent Horn Policies Video
What I Will (and Won't) Debate
The Counsel of Trent | 4 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs6z7asjta4
5:18 I'm looking forward to your debate with Rob Skiba's son.
Apart from Rob Skiba, I actually don't know of any Christian Flat Earthers. His widow and his (step?) son are obviously of his conviction.
5:30 That the view of Flat Earth is fringe if correct. As to harmful, how is it more harmful than the equally fringe view that Finland doesn't exist?
I mean, Finland deniers could be people who, in an attempt of cherishing what Putin cherishes, including the Great Patriotic War, would want to deny that in 1940 Stalin made an attack on Finland, which was so far not allied to Hitler. I think that's way more harmful than saying (even if it's wrong) "NASA is lying to us" ...
6:12 Instead of "American Holocaust" you might prefer to speak of a "near world wide" one.
For 2021 or 2022, death tolls world wide were 67.1 million. For some quirky reason, excluding abortions. Abortions were 73 million. For somequirky reason not included in the death tolls.
Russia would seem to be so far still more abortive than the US. I think China is worse than Russia.
- Brother Piner
- @Brother_Piner
- Sometimes we’ve gotta focus on one country at a time. Chinese and Russian babies are God’s children, just the same as American children; but Trent and much of his audience lives in America. This is where we can have the most impact and save the most lives. We should still pray we can end abortion everywhere else, and if an opportunity arises, we must take it.
- Vyts
- @Gyvulys
- It is chilling how quickly people can discard human lives just for their personal convenience. Everyone gasps at gulags and concentration camps, seemingly not comprehending how such evil could've existed, yet what are our societies doing now?
- BBorder
- @Boundless_Border
- @Gyvulys
Do you think those situations are exactly the same?
- Vyts
- @Boundless_Border
Human life is brutally and mercilessly discarded in both cases... so yeah, I don't see a difference. Do you?
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @Gyvulys In abortion, the human life is discarded more directly than in the Gulags, more routinely than in Auschwitz.
Abortion survivors are rarer than Holocaust survivors.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @Brother_Piner Fair point, if that's the case.
My own audience, 5 million all times all blogs, are a more mixed lot. 1 M 200 k, US, 1 M 100 k, France, then both Russia and parts of the Chinese culture (not Red China) looms large.
8:16 I may not "condemn Catholics" who believe the age of the Earth is in the area of 4.5 billion. I'm not their bishop.
What I however very much do is, ask how this is compatible with certain things of the faith.
I'm not just appealing to Trent Session IV, consensus of Fathers. And when it comes to "hath held and doeth now hold" I usually cite it in answer to people, who, unlike you, think they can condemn me for being YEC or at least for being vocal about it. In their view, CCC § 283 can be seen as sth the Church "does now hold", but obviously, even if it's the Church which judges, it doesn't meat the criterium of "hath held and now holdeth" ... no, there is way more.
Trent Session V.
Adam existed, and his sin instantaneously bereft himself, both of having grace, and of transmitting it in generation.
How is this compatible with billions of years?
If you don't pay attention to carbon dates and don't get into details about the supposed science, you may miss the contradiction. It's possible Pius XII did so. If he thought a five billion year old earth (as he stated the next year) and Adam's body descending from non-human progenitors before God made him image of God, if he thought this was compatible with monogenism and with Genesis 1 through 11 being a Readers Digest version sprinkled with some figures of speech of what the process from first creation to Abraham actually was like, and that's the limits he considered non-negotiable, then he was not very well informed about what the supposed science says. He was obviously an educated man. But being in 1896, when Catholics still published YEC tracts with ecclesiastic approval, 20 years, in Italy and not England, this does not mean he was either very expert or very eager to adher to what "science" had to say on this subject.
At the end of the first academic year however, in the summer of 1895, he dropped out of both the Capranica and the Gregorian University. According to his sister Elisabetta, the food at the Capranica was to blame.[16] Having received a special dispensation he continued his studies from home and so spent most of his seminary years as an external student. In 1899, he completed his education in Sacred Theology with a doctoral degree awarded on the basis of a short dissertation and an oral examination in Latin.
He was as sheltered from some things as a homeschooler from Texas could be. I'm not.
Carbon dates guarantee that IF the atmosphere is old (a very relevant topic on carbon dating), THEN men anatomically and genetically very close to ourselves and having all genetic and anatomic traits connected to speech were extant 40 000 years ago and some earlier.
a) saying they were pre-Adamites begs the question why someone who was not image of God (again, a requirement by Pius XII) could speak;
b) saying they were pre-Adamites also begs the question of how Adam could be the common ancestor of all who now live, and if you try to resolve it by "common yes, unique no" that means Adamites were marrying (if that's the word) creatures that, as non-human, were unable to consent;
c) saying Adam lived then or even earlier means a very long waiting time for the Messiah, under conditions very prone to confusing the tradition, a bit like if Jesus had chosen His Disciples in the Americas, and specifically Mid West Amazonas or Great Plains rather than Mayan territories, and if "for God one day is like a thousand years" the traditional chronology means God actually, in a sense which Adam at the end of his long life would have understood did send the Redeemer within six days. With your view, the waiting time seems absurdly long, especially if you don't take the long lifespans literally;
d) saying Adam lived then or even earlier also means too long time for the Genesis 3 events to have faded from correct historic tradition. To Scofield, a Protestant, we may know Genesis 3, including Genesis 3:15, was revealed to Moses. I'd agree the six days were, but the ensuing human history, no, Haydock is clear we know it from tradition, and Moses is to that tradition, as Luke was to the tradition from those who had been with Christ. The prophecy view also makes nonsense of itself by inaccuracy of the Genesis 5 and 11 genealogies.
And obviously, if you presume Genesis 3 is known in a very deformed way as to the facts, as may be expected by carrying a tradition purely orally over 40 000 years, that's contrary to the actual words of that perhaps still faithful, perhaps still Pope, when on historicity of Genesis 1 through 11, he holds it to be told in a popular way, and using metaphors, which translates as it being a Readers' Digest version of the facts, told with some figures of speech.
In the light of so many years, there would logically be a possibility for very different views on Genesis 3, like saying the Snake was right, or like saying an advanced alien civilisation preserved the facts (and they invariably in the versions I've heard contradict the version of the Bible). Or that it was a pious fable, written late. Perhaps invented during the Exile.
You mentioned your view that YEC has led to apostasies. Well, that could be for a lack of Creation Science, or similar ventures of Apologetics doing at least amateur science for the literal truth of Genesis 1 through 11. I think I have made a case for how many apostasies have been provoked very much for believing the supposed "science" ...
So, I make a case that Old Earth / Deep Time, Theistic Evolution, is highly corrosive of some dogmas, and indeed key dogmas, of the faith. While the Inklings (inlcuding a very famous Catholic) thought they had ways around these pitfalls, that fails. I've written, with the greatest respect for CSL and JRRT as cherished artists and great thinkers, refutations of such solutions. In The Problem of Pain, CSL proposes the fall was collective. This is not compatible with Trent Session V. It also makes the god who accepts a collective sin as a reason to bind people in a trap of sinfulness that of Supralapsarian Calvinism. Individuals have freewill, even if they don't always exercise it. Collectives as such do not. They usually find ways in making the freewill of some official palliate that lack, but as collectives, they do not have freewill. A collective sin cannot be accounted in the same way. And all collective sins we do find in the Bible are involving less than all of mankind.
1) Pre-Flood men.
2) Babel builders.
3) Sodom citizens.
4) Egyptians deciding to oppress Israelites.
...
5) Taking the Mark of the Beast, persecuting those who do not take it.
Noah, Heber, Lot, Moses and the Israelites, the 144 000 ... God never allowed all of mankind to fall into a collective actual sin. The seemingly less bad alternative to an individual and unique Adam is an individual representative Adam. Why would pre-sin man have needed a representative?
If you reply, Adam could have been a saviour, but failed to become so, where did the previous sin come from? A "product of evolution" would equally be the answer of essentially a Supralapsarian Calvinist.
- A….
- @user-sq9ec1fz7o
- I think part of the answer would be.
Being that there is zero evidence for the earth being young, it might be the young earth creationist who is misinterpreting the Bible.
If genesis is intended to say young earth creationism is true, the scientific evidence should follow if God made the earth young instead of through a different process
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @user-sq9ec1fz7o Given there is plenty of historic evidence in the Bible the Earth is young, maybe some guys are interpreting the "evidence" (presumably meaning scientific one) wrong.
"the scientific evidence should follow if God made the earth young"
Why would "scientific evidence" at all be able to make out the difference?
Why repose only on one of two opposing (though very differently sized) teams of scientists?
How is your comment not tantamount to "if God intended us to believe in freewill, why did He create a Zodiac, so we can make horoscopes?"
AND, you have given ZERO solution to my arguments why Deep Time is not just wrong, but also against the Catholic faith.
Perhaps, I cannot tell from your channel who or what you are, you are very uninterested in Roman Catholic dogma. I am not, Trent Horn is not, if you are that uninterested, why are you at all interested in getting into the way of a debate I'm trying to have with Trent Horn?
If you are one of a seeming giant team dedicated just to making me question my positions, how can I not want to box you and your likes? Any evil I can sometimes suffer from Muslims, as a homeless writer, I'm suffering from you too. Twice more, at least then from them. And if you aren't that team, why did you take the precaution to answer me with an empty channel with a non-identifiable user name?
Thou art legio, for ye are many. Get your tribe of swine into Lake Kinnereth, and stop pestering me.
[end of dialogue]
"not condemn Catholics who 8:13 believe the Earth is not thousands of 8:15 years old which has included people like 8:17 Pope Pius XII and St Maximilan Kolbe"
Neither of these grew up confronting Deep Time and Theistic (or other) Evolution in their natural habitat, not even the one from back then, let alone their contemporary one.
It's like asking a Saudi Arabian who has never been abroad "is Evolution compatible with Islam?" ... he will have no experience of how Evolution is (with very great display of intelligent comprehension) forwarded by Forrest Valkai. Or even a more civilised man, Paulogia.
It's also like asking me to take Robert Sungenis' word for it being innocuous to Young Earth Evolution to accept α Centauri is 4 light years away. And certain "other galaxies" perhaps 100 000 or millions of light years away. He was culturally able to innocently recycle what I had also believed, that God miraculously speeded up the starlight, as if the problem was restricted to why we can already see the stars. What about Novas = Exploding stars, where the distance means that the explosion took place before we were all created, on the YEC view?
Now, that's the exact point at which I became Geocentric (with 24 hours delay). It's nice to be an Apologist for people who never confront Forrest Valkai and never hear about distant Novas. Have fun while it lasts, but if you truly think you're doing your audience a favour by helping to marginalise an Apologist with fewer such luxuries, eternity may be less funny.
Monday, December 2, 2024
Genesis 18 and Ezechiel 16 Revisited
Ken Ham on LGBTQ, I Pose a Question · Genesis 18 and Ezechiel 16 Revisited
Try Rereading Sodom and Gomorrah Without Personal Bias
Rev Ed Trevors | 14 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZVK_cb9bBM
You know what? Your final words are a death knoll to "sola scriptura" and Luther's "each man, armed with the Bible is unto himself a Priest, a Bishop, a Pope" (quoting from memory).
If our personal biasses are so devious when we read Scripture, how about finding a magisterium, that spans the ages? Oh, wait, that's what Luther, Bucer, Cranmer did away with ... it's found in the Catholic Church.
So, how about reading this passage in light of the Church's perennial teaching? Well, I just did that with the two verses in Ezechiel.
"a 5:02 crime against visitors to their 5:06 City I challenge that if this story was 5:09 written about two visitors two angels 5:13 coming into the city but those angels 5:16 were who appeared 5:20 female we would never it would never it 5:23 it wouldn't be a matter that well this 5:25 is don't you see this is that 5:26 heterosexuality is wrong"
We know for very good reasons, not applicable for homosexuality, that heterosexuality isn't wrong. Plus, as said, Lot offered his daughters as a less evil alternative.
5:20 The point is, if that were the case, why are they refusing the daughters of Lot?
Why is Lot offering his daughters, as a less evil alternative?
[I wrote above before I left the cyber. I had to return. The box is what I wrote after returning, on another video.]
Lot, His Daughters, And The Town’s Men |
7:58 I dispute your reading of Hezechiel.
I agree with St. Thomas' reading. Their sin had three steps down into the abyss:
1) eating too much
2) being inhospitable
3) sin against nature.
Remember, to St. Thomas, the primary meaning of "nature" was not a walk inthe woods, it was "conception and connected" ...
Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom thy sister, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and to the poor And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me: and I took them away as thou hast seen
[Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 16:49-50]
"Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom thy sister,"
God is defining the sin. I'll now take each item as stated and show the equation.
1) eating too much = "pride, fulness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters:"
2) being inhospitable = and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and to the poor "
3) sin against nature = "And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me:"
Then comes God's punishment:
"and I took them away as thou hast seen"
8:37 Sodomy is not just about whom one loves.
It's also about how the love is physically acted out. If God thought that a husband making love with his wife while she was menstruating was for the Old Covenant a stoning offense, it means, He doesn't like making sex infertile. Get this straight, He is not in favour of married people using condoms either, not to mention pills, which are in fact sometimes early-abortive.
So, two men love each other? Well, tell them, "you can't have children together, but you could have grandchildren together" ... get them each a wife and they'll hope one of the one's sons will marry one of the other's daughters. A bit too late for the son and daughter of Jonas and Mark in Sweden (most famous gay couple, would have applauded your reading, both are in Christian denominations). They grew up as siblings, even if physically they aren't.
But that act which is in and of itself unfruitful, it is an abomination to God. As Ezechiel says.
[I tried adding, but above was censored, so this couldn't be posted under it:]
Not Mark and Jonas, but the son of Jonas and the daughter of Mark.
8:45 Love may indeed be a wonderful thing, but that's not an exact quote.
If you go to "greater love hath no man" that's not about eros. It's agape. I looked it up in John 15:13 in the interlinear.
If you go to "what God has joined, let no man separate" that's very explicitly about "one man and one woman" (Mark 10:6). In the context, it is foremost about forbidding divorce and remarriage. But en passant it defines what marriage is.
9:52 I happen to think God sometimes converts people from thieving, from manslaughter, from adultery, from drunkenness, and yes, active and passive participation in sodomy was on the list as well, when St. Paul finishes with "such were some of you" ...
I'm not begrudging Arthur, Lancelot and Guinevere to have successfully made penance for the adultery, and I'm not begrudging any sodomite from getting out of that sin in the way most agreeable to him. Whether his reluctance against women primes his desire for sex or his desire for sex primes his reluctance to women, and same for her.
________________________
I'm giving the First Pope the Last Word:
et justum Lot oppressum a nefandorum injuria, ac luxuriosa conversatione eripuit
[2 Peter 2:7]
When Lot offered up his daughters, he was just. When the men of Sodom refused, their conversation was not just an injustice to his hospitality, but also luxuriosa, lewd.
Were Germanic Peoples Forced to Convert to Christianity?
For this idea, I presume this man is called Thor Elptirdalr:
How Christianity was Forced on the Germanic Peoples
Norse Magic and Beliefs | 11 March 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey7Z-yVAbqE
Against, with exceptions, my comments:
the medieval 1:09 Europeans accepted Christianity 1:11 willingly 1:13 oh wait so you guys can all have a laugh 1:16 Christians never force their religion on 1:19 anyone
1:20 Simplification, but not totally wrong.
1) Most nations accepted Christianity without outside pressure.
2) Most places where there was government pressure to accept Christianity had previously had government pressure to accept a non-Christian religion.
3) Where Christian governments were lenient to older believers, like at first in Sweden, like among Anglo-Saxons, Pagans still wanted to force people out of Christianity, until Christian governments getting the upper hand once again forced the Pagans out.
I note that you mentioned both England and Sweden. I'll hear you out and then probably refute you.
1:43 "every place in the world"
That was not the point about the comment. The point was Medieval Europeans. Apart from Germanic peoples, that breaks down into:
- Romans. Including P-Celts.
- Irish and Scots.
- Slavs.
- Balts.
- Finno-Ugrians.
The big "crusader victims" would be just:
- Saxons (or Saxon nobility)
- Estonians
- Livonians
- Curonians.
The rest of the Europeans of the Middle Ages accepted Christianity willingly. Latin America is totally outside the scope of the original comment.
[tried to add]
Oh, Prussians. My bad.
[Franks]
2:25 No, St. Clotildis was not a Catholic priestess. She was a Catholic princess. She was granddaughter of Gunnar. You know Gondicharius. The last king of the Worms Burgundians, before Attila defeated them.
But she was not a Catholic priestess. That is a category that did not exist.
You can argue on whether her friend St. Genevieve was a Deaconness, but she was not a priestess.
So, Clotildis was a Catholic princess, related to Sigurd Fafnis bane ... continue.
2:56 The Alemanni were NOT Christian before Clovis defeated them.
"In 496, the Alemanni were conquered by the Frankish leader Clovis and incorporated into his dominions. Mentioned as still pagan allies of the Christian Franks, the Alemanni were gradually Christianized during the seventh century."
Gradually ... sounds like voluntarily. But that was after the Franks defeated them at Tolbiacum, presumed to be Zülpich.
3:18 Why would you not say they were peacefully converted?
Because of the lie that pretends the Alemanni were a kind of "crusaders" when they were actually pagans at this point?
[Anglo-Saxons]
3:25 "they took some time to convert, over many hundreds of years actually"
Like, they converted peacefully too?
4:04 The instructions by Pope St. Gregory are instructions to missionaries, not to soldiers.
4:17 Christmas, Midsummer, Easter ...
You basically pretend that Pagans were bamboozled to be Christians, but that's nothing like saying they were forced.
For Christmas and Easter, you have no actual evidence of Pagan feasts ... did you say "Yule" or "Midwinter"? That was around Candlemass, beginning of February.
4:30 Christian Churches on top of Pagan Temples. Obviously after some authorities of the up to then Pagan countries had agreed to become Christians.
For reference, St. Augustine of Canterbury was a monk and bishop. He + companions = 42 (as HHGG fans would appreciate). Not an army of crusaders.
5:03 "the Church forcefully baptising children"
Against their wishes or those of their parents? In the latter case, you are complaining that slaves and very lower class freemen (possibly) were forced to have their children baptised, which is a complaint that really doesn't make sense in a Germanic Pagan context, where chieftains were even sacrificing slaves and war captives to Odin (like once every nine years, nine men hung), because chieftains and their wishes were all that mattered in society. The rest mattered so that they could be a good back-up for the chieftains.
Pagans abandoning and killing children? Thank you very much for telling us what a hate cult English Paganism was at this point!
5:22 "just shows how passionate the Anglo-Saxon pagans were"
The few who were still pagans, that is.
"the lengths that the Christians"
The native English Christian chieftains, mind you. Chieftains or kings or gothar would ring a bell to a Germanic Pagan, normally ...
6:00 "so, Christianity was still not accepted at that time" (just before 700).
By a tiny minority of poor people. Know what? Your concern for poor people looks a bit like residual Christianity to me. Key word, residual.
As the Christians were not a foreign invader, Christianity very much was accepted by those in power at that time. What Germanic Pagan was ever (before Christian times) respectful of poor people acting like Christian martyrs?
6:44 Yes, King Edwin listened to birds, and you care about the poor. It's called a residual reflex. As for his wars, a wiki check will tell us, he waged wars against Brythonic and Goidelic peoples, to expand not just Catholic Christianity, but first and foremost Germanic rule in England, not unlike Hors and Hengest. So, a bishop killing a bird is violent conversion of King Edwin?
Take note. Casualties of Christianisation of the Germanic tribes include one crow.
6:55 "it's not like massacres and blood used to convert the Anglo-Saxons" (correct!)
[Bavarians, Thuringians, Saxons]
7:22 Between Franks and Saxons, wouldn't there be Bavarians first?
If you want to paint Christianity as brutal, how is it not very tactic to skip the Bavarians? One might even say "devious" ...
Or Thuringians. In Thuringia, St. Boniface came into more conflict over trying to get Catholic clergy and monastics to behave, than over felling the Pagan sacred oak in Geismar.
At the felling of the oak, which was sacred to Donar, it seems Thuringians and Frisians who were present expected Donar to strike Boniface. Nothing happened, and he could use the wood to build a church.
Boniface and Corbinian, respectively from Anglo-Saxons and Franks, had no big trouble in Bavaria either. This was in the 720's. Well before any Frankish brutality to Saxons.
7:44 It's remarkable that the "freedom of beliefs" or the Saxons would have involved the freedom of believing in a gods-given right to plunder Christian neighbours.
When Einhard introduces the "Saxon question" so to speak, it was with the claim that Saxons had been harrassing their Frankish and Christian neighbours across the border for about a century already.
8:12 Destruction of Irminsul. According to the depiction, it would have been a tree, like the oak in Geismar, but it seems from other sources that it was a pillar of already felled wood.
Some have claimed that the Viking age was the revenge for the felling of Irminsul and for the brutalisation of Saxons, especially nobility.
Let's check, 1066, I think most Saxons by then would have come over being Christians, and Irminsul. That's when the Viking Age ended.
9:40 Yes, exactly. Charlemagne in reacting to the Saxons did not act typically as Christians did.
Thanks for clearing that up, and long live Alcuin, inventor of Medieval Latin, and, as a by-product of French!
10:11 You are aware that those killed at the Blood Court of Verden was 4000 nobles, right?
People who were likely to lead armed forces against the Franks, not simply totally civilian peasant-serfs.
[Frisians]
10:54 Frisian-Frankish conflict has a backstory. 733, Charles the Hammer (Martel) defeated King Poppo.
This was the end of a land conflict which had lasted c. 80 years. The end saw pagan sanctuaries of the Frisians plundered, but there were already Christian ones, invited like bishops Wilfred and Willebrord.
This took all of Frisia West of the Lauwers into Frankish power. So, this part of the Frisians were "half" Christened peacefully, by Wilfred and Willibrord, "half" by Conquest (burning of Pagan sanctuaries).
In 772, when Charlemagne gets involved, we deal with Frisians East of the Lauwers. And significantly, they were allied with the Saxons. You know, age old enemies of the Saxons, by this time.
Both before and after 772, Frisians had been far from peaceful, like the killing of St. Boniface before, in 754.
Or the risings under Widukind, an actually Saxon King.
Widukind converted. The back and forth in Frisia and Saxony doesn't seem like a population who were die-hard pagans, brutalised by Christians, but a population who were if die-hard anything die-hard pro-chieftain, and that's why Charlemagne wanted the Pagan chieftains replaced, sometimes very brutally.
[Denmark]
13:12 "in the following decades or hundreds of years slowly accepted Christianity"
Slowly = overall (except the Baptism of HB and his men) voluntarily.
Thanks for noting, not very different from Sweden.
[Norway]
15:13 OK, for one Olaf, you mentioned one occasion when he killed a man who was a chieftain and who refused to become Christian.
You concluded there where probably thousands. Sorry, but I don't think Norway had that many major chieftains at the point. I also have no feeling Olaf Tryggvason did this to peasants.
After that, I'm less inclined to accept your description of Saint Olaf as forcing village after village with his army, as if there were no Christians anywhere before him.
There are traces of Christianity in Norway in certain regions from the mid-900's.
So, basically, like Denmark and Sweden, a gradual transition, mostly voluntary, I might guess. Though, perhaps somewhat less so than in Denmark or Sweden.
[Sweden and Iceland]
16:57 It may be mentioned that when Inge Stenkilsson went into exile, it was from the Stockholm-Uppsala region.
Svein, the King's brother-in-law, remained behind in the assembly, and offered the Swedes to do sacrifices on their behalf if they would give him the Kingdom. They all agreed to accept Svein's offer, and he was then recognized as King over all Sweden. A horse was then brought to the assembly and hewn in pieces and cut up for eating, and the sacred tree was smeared with blood. Then all the Swedes abandoned Christianity, and sacrifices started again. They drove King Ingi away; and he went into Vestergötland.
Westro-Gothia is part of present Sweden. And to this day more Christian than the Stockholm region.
Was not aware of the Norwegian Crusade into Småland.
When you end on Sweden, there is another swathe of Germanic speakers who converted peacefully, that you very tactically missed.
If I say AD 1000, the Allthing, and Njáll Þorgeirsson, that should suggest to you a collective and unforced conversion of all of Iceland to Christianity.
[He concludes and so do I, with a view on witchtrials]
17:40 There weren't all that many witchtrials in Medieval times.
While I agree a real witch (one really perceiving herself as practising witchcraft) was a Pagan, I totally disagree in believing they were a continuation of Germanic (or for that matter Celtic) Paganism (for Slavic, Baltic, Finnish, Lapponian, that may be a different story).
You presume there were lots of unrecorded brutalities against pagans, but how pagan was a man who was punished for sacrificing to vettar, if he also went to Church?
Now, I don't know the details of the trials for Paganism, and in the post-Reformation period, people would be accused for Paganism for sticking to Catholic practises and beliefs, so they are not evidence for actual surviving Paganism.
Finland Exists. So Do Homeless and Aborted Russians.
Why Does America Feel So... Bonkers?
Lost in the Pond | 1 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwo4-xbJykM
For any US Citizen YOU meet who'd deny Finland.
1) The coordinates are mapping out the globe mathematically. Mathematically speaking, every coordinate has to exist, or the globe would have to have a hole in it.
2) 68° 39′ N, 27° 33′ E is usually referred to as Ivalo, a village of the Finnish part of Lappland. 60°10′09″N 24°57′07″ E is usually referred to a Helsingfors or Helsinki, the capital of Finland.
3) So, if you don't think Finland exists, what do YOU think that lies on 68° 39′ N, 27° 33′ E or 60°10′09″N 24°57′07″ E?
Again. Travel is real. Ozzies are real. How do they explain this Ozzy who moved to Finland? Here:
I Moved To Finland Alone At 19 Years Old
William Preat | 13 Sept. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TJRsLeBwU
I've never been to Finland, but my mother has.
When I was small, I thought that Septuaginta was a place in Finland. It was actually the theme of a youth camp held there.
6:41 No, the Sun is going around us.
7:46 "we went to the moon!"
Well, yes. God saw Nimrod wanted to go there at Babel and thought, putting the project on pause was a way to help it on, considering Nimrod's Neolithic means were inadequate.
So, God gave Nimrod's drafted international workforce a day, when He gave them languages even more different from each other than English, from German or either from Russian.
7:56 "more like millions"
Er, no. Grand Canyon would be dated differently by me and by CMI, but 2957 BC and 2304 BC are closer to each other than millions. Both are by the way dates of the Biblical Flood.
Why Western Conservatives LOVE Russia (Joe Rogan, Elon Musk & more)
NFKRZ | 1 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-fyG6Nxzw
Czar ancestor, if I may say so, peace!
This is getting shared! With my comments.
1:50 THE good guy was Lech Kaczynski.
Given Putin's past in the KGB, given air plane crash of Zia Ul Haqq, attributed to KGB, in my view credibly, given Navalny and a few other novichok victims and plutonium poisonings, I have my suspicions about who killed Lech Kaczynski, like it wasn't just an "act of God" as insurance companies would term it.
Putin's Russia still has more abortions than the USA had even before Dobbs.
Is Joe Rogan among the guys who has doubted that Finland exists? Because in Finland, even very conservative people are not necessarily pro-Russian. I mean, there is a history from back in 1808--1809 and also the wars known as the Winter War and the Continuation War. Yes, in the latter Finland did receive help from Hitler, that's not a crime. It was against Stalin.
For perspective.*
Putin's way of fighting abortion is asking Russian women "pretty please, do me a favour, don't abort" ... while every New Year he is wishing a happy new year to all of hospital personnel, including those performing abortions.
Poland on the other hand doesn't allow abortion on demand, and also doesn't allow "medical reasons" to include malformations or genetic diseases of the fetus, only direct physical risk to the life or health of the mother. Mussolini had a minister of justice called Rocco, whose Codice Rocco is still, with modifications, the penal code of Italy. In the original Codice Rocco, solitary abortion was punished with 1 to 4 years, for the mother aborting if over 14, abortion with medical assistance 2 to 5, for her and for the medical assistant, and in cases when someone was pushed to abortion (automatically presumed if the mother was mentally handicapped or under 14), the one pushing was in for 6 to 12 years. Putin refuses to take a cue, just as he refuses to remove the memorial to Vladimir I of Muscovy. Probably because he refuses to disavow said Ilyich Ulyanov.
3:33 Russian wokeness and low birth rates provoked a Old Age Pensions' crisis in 2018 or 2019.
US, being less woke and having higher birth rates, may still have 7—9 years to go before the outflow from pension funds starts to drastically overstep the inflow.
US people admiring Russia is as if Mary Marvel/Batson thought Betty Boop a paragon of female decency.
4:30 Let's check.
US to Russia
Homeless:
650 104 / 11 300 = 57.53 times as many.
Overall population:
334 914 895 / 146 170 015 = 2.291 times as many.
57.53 / 2.291 = 25.111 as many per capita.
This is according to Statista. However, eurasiareview says:
Russia Now Has Two Million Homeless And Their Ranks Are Growing Because Of War In Ukraine – OpEd
November 21, 2024 | By Paul Goble
https://www.eurasiareview.com/21112024-russia-now-has-two-million-homeless-and-their-ranks-are-growing-because-of-war-in-ukraine-oped/
Recalculate:
Homeless:
650 104 / 2 000 000 = 0.325 times as many.
Overall population:
334 914 895 / 146 170 015 = 2.291 times as many.
0.325 / 2.291 = 0.142 as many per capita. Or Russia has 7 times as many per capita.
4:38 Better judicial system?
Have you checked Yuri Dmitriev, who held out on the actually true story that the Sandarmokh massacre was committed by the Red Army?
Meanwhile, historians who came around to "no, it was the Germans and the Finns" are not being put in prison for "pedo-porn" (Yuri was told by a doctor he needed photos of the step daughter's naked chest, she was ill, those were found on his computer).**
8:35 LBGT movement is banned as "extremist"?
Well, the problem is, a house church can be banned as "extremist" as well.
I'm not sure of the current status of YEC, it could be more at risk of being administrationally regarded as extremist in some other places, but even there I'm not sure. In 2012 the YEC movement seemed to have some liberties in Russia, not compared to the US, but perhaps to France. I have not heard the latest news, and I am far from reassured that the Creation Science stuff that has some Russian traction isn't either:
- export only (not for internal consumption) or:
- confined to 7 Day Adventists.
It's also possible it's legal to be YEC as a purely religious belief, but I'm less sure you are allowed to make scientific arguments on it. I think at least such an attitude is prevalent in the Western Pro-Russian camp.
It's like how Pussy Riot was sentenced. Blasphemy? No. Huliganism. = Display of disrespect for society. You know that Diocletian, Decius and the other guys were basically considering it as Huliganism to refuse to sacrifice to the gods or to Caesar's genius, unless you had the ethnic excuse of being Jewish? Some guys have said it was oh, so nice that blasphemers were punished. I prefer being aware of what law that was applied. The law against "extremism" stinks.
8:37 "planning to ban abortions"
Not what the headline says. What abortion access restrictions have so far done is making abortion depend on connexions, not making it impossible.
I was in late 2004 considered by a Russian expat suspect of being pro-Putin, perhaps not least because I support actual abortion bans. Like in Ireland prior to last decade. Like in Poland. Like in Mussolini's Italy. Well, so far, Russia has not taken that route.
9:07 Russia more Christian?
Here are numbers from the wikipedia, and they are very comparable between Russia and US:
| Russia: | United States: | |
|---|---|---|
| 64.4% Christianity = (61.8% Russian Orthodoxy + 2.6% other Christian)
21.2% no religion 9.5% Islam 1.4% other (including Buddhism)[8] 3.5% undeclared | 67% Christianity = (33% Protestantism + 22% Catholicism + 1% Mormonism + 11% other Christian)
22% unaffiliated 2% Judaism 6% other religion 3% unanswered |
Now take a look at Ukraine:
| 87.3% Christianity
11.0% no religion | 0.8% other
0.9% unanswered |
14:10 [Putin a] Genius strategist?
You mean sth like a GröFAZ? I think there was a painter who claimed that title first. If you ask me, he should have stuck to painting. And a certain Volodya should have stuck to telling people to behave in German class. He might have been a decent German teacher, by now.
14:23 James Bond?
| J 74 070
A 65 130 M 77 200 16 E 69 260 25 S 83 340 28 | B 66 400 34
O 79 470 43 N 78 540 51 D 68 600 59 |
So, 659, nothing to worry about, right 007 ...? Wait, 659 + 007 = ...
To be clear, it seems KGB was being heroised very heavily in James Bond like cinema, back in the days, but actually those films were far sleazier than James Bond films. Or so I have heard. I think they may have inspired a carreere choice, like in a man who should probably have been a German teacher.
15:53 If I were asked to vote for Kamala or Putin, I hope I'd have the courage to say "Christ is King, I vote for neither of them" ...
* Next day, and I could add.
** I'm not quoting in extenso, but Roman has a story about a man who was sentenced to five years for a street interview, and a pediatrician of 67, a lady, sentenced to 5.5 years, based on hearsay, both cases speaking out against the "special operation" ....
Narnian Technology
Narnian Technology is Weird | Narnia Explained
Into the Wardrobe | 30 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQtlelGeK6w
Fitting to put this out on Uncle Andrew's Patron Saint's day. It was St. Andrew's yesterday.
0:38 There is actually a very large portion of history with a technology stuck around Neolithic~Medieval.
The Upper Palaeolithic is just 350 years after the Flood, the recent Industrialism has just been for 350 years too.
2:34 The printing press?
Were the books in Coriakin's library printed?
3:04 Fireworks and astrolabes ARE Medieval.
The two things that do stand out are the iron stove and the sewing machine.
[Tried to add]
Queen Helen, as you mentioned, makes sense.
7:29 Not just beginning of Antiquity and end of Middle Ages, but even more (and I think CSL would have agreed), between Nimrod's Babel (Neolithic) and England just before the Industrial Revolution.
However, in Nimrod's Babel, the speed was comparable to now. 20 000 BC to 6000 BC (which covers a bit more than just Babel on either side) seems like 14 000 years in carbon dates. But if 20 000 BC* is really between 2738 BC and 2712 BC, with a low initial carbon 14 in each sample, and 6000 BC** is really 2318 BC, that means that the Neolithic Revolution, which recovered some pre-Flood technology, was just taking 400 years and some. That's comparable to our speed.
Notes:
* See:
- 2738 BC
- 11.073 / 11.069 pmC, so dated 20938 BC
- 2712 BC
- 17.576 pmC, so dated 17062 BC
Other Revision of I-II ?
** See:
- 2318 BC
- 63.914 pmC, so dated 6018 BC
The Revision of I-II, II-III, III-IV May be Unnecessary, BUT Illustrates What I Did When Doing the First Version of New Tables
Dialogue:
- Esmeralda Pendragon
- @Esmeralda.Pendragon
- In Narnia, technology does not progress compared to the world in which the Pevensies live, because too much technology wears down relationships between human beings.
Nowadays we no longer communicate verbally with each other, but only via technology.
This is why CS Lewis did not want to contaminate Narnia with modernism, outside of a few small tools such as the glasses, Mrs. Beaver's sewing machine, the clock, the street lamp and a few other things.
It also demonizes magic which is the root of all evil, which is why heroes are Noble Knights and perfectly normal.
What emerges most is life in nature, the cohesion and mutual collaboration of all the protagonists.
That's why I love this Saga.
Yesterday there was the commemoration of the day of birth of C S Lewis on 29 November 1898, and died on 22 November 1963.
See you soon. 💥
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- "Nowadays we no longer communicate verbally with each other, but only via technology."
Some are in fact stopped from communicating via technology.
One of my comments, at least, was removed, because I couldn't make a follow up comment under it.
The people I'd communicate with, if I did NOT have internet access would mostly be the kind of people who have been harrassing me over what I do on the internet. People who would treat me as a recovering addict, featuring internet addiction, because I love defending the Catholic truth. Or people who think I'm mentally confused about what Catholicism is, because I'm Young Earth Creationist (I also don't believe the "Popes" of the CCC and of Father Cantalamessa have been real popes, they have come down heavily on the side of Deep Time and Theistic Evolution, which to my mind makes them heretics).
In other words, the internet is my breath of air.
It is repairing lots of wounds in other people too, who are caught among uncongenial people. That's why it's attacked.
It didn't exist in CSL's time. Communicating via papers or radio was a "receiving end only" thing for most, and for those getting out a privilege. Either granted by the already importance or by the generosity of those editing the publications. He can't have had that motive. Not exactly as.
However, he did kind of deplore the biassed information of news papers influencing unwary middle class, but he thought Proletarians were safe, since they only read sports and crossword puzzles.
Sunday, December 1, 2024
Holy Koolaid Made an Appeal To Some Anti-Trump — My Answer as Pro-Trump
How to Save Democracy
Holy Koolaid | 30 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewZdki2UT4
3:20 The one item that really doesn't chime with me is deportation.
I saw a study, it is not feasible logistically. He may attempt it, but hardly go through with it.
Some things he can do is like give abortion less place and homeschooling and religious free schools more place in the USA. And those items, I like.
17:24 An actually fundamentally ignorant view of what abortion is, is more like yours.
Killed in abortion 2022, 73 million.
Died, all (other) causes of death 2022, 67.1 million.
20:27 Of the ones you named, Alex O'Connor is better than you, the other ones you named are worse.
I have been fighting longer than you and on an opposite team.
I cannot be both Christian and Nationalist as a Swede, but I'm close to those who are both in Poland or generally the Vysehrad countries.
And I have been fighting with less resources.
One thing you have above Forrest Valkai is, he isn't doing deep dives into demographics before Babel or Sodom, so, you inspired me.
Here is part of that, and for my part, God bless Trump:
Creation vs. Evolution: Flood to End of Babel, Demographics
https://creavsevolu.blogspot.com/2024/11/flood-to-end-of-babel-demographics.html
(But perhaps not all of his policies).
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