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Tuesday, November 26, 2024
Not Really Antediluvian Items, But He Has a Point About Those Guys
"We Were Never Supposed to See The Antediluvians"
Off The Kirb Ministries | 23 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeqnh-KUL0k
11:14 Flood, according to Roman Martyrology for Christmas Day, was in 2958 BC.
Jesus is born 2957 after the Flood, and He's also born in 1 BC (there is no "year zero" and the year 1 AD starts with His circumcision).
Note, this is based on a LXX reading of Genesis 11, more particularly an early LXX readering without the Second Cainan.
13:27 "Imagine being mentored by another person who had been mentored by God."
Like Sts. Mark and Linus being mentored by St. Peter? Like Sts.Luke, Tim and Tite mentored by St. Paul? Like St. Polycarp being mentored by St. John the Beloved?
What if that kind of thing were still accessible, wouldn't it do wonders for Bible comprehension .... let's see, have you heard of a thing called Apostolic Tradition?
But as to the things you so far showcased, not only are they all post-Flood, they are even post-Babel.
If you ever get to see a city from pre-Flood Nod, it will probably be a horror, some things, but it will probably also be if there is a rupture in one of the Higher Mountains of Persia or Himalaya.
14:19 No, that's not how the ages go in the Bible.
All mentioned in Genesis 5 had the capacity to live for 900+ years and only two didn't, Henoch was taken up and Lamech died short of 800. However, his son Noah again lived 950 years.
I said "all mentioned in Genesis 5" but I should have excluded Shem, Ham and Japheth. Shem only lived to 600, and his posterity up to Abraham even shorter and shorter. This, Genesis 11, is where life spans get shorter.
I'd say the exact same extra radioactivity that shortened lifespans, the exact same extra radioactivity which helped to speed up the post-Flood Ice Age also helped to increase carbon 14, we now have c. 64 times as much as back at the Flood, and that's why carbon dates from the Flood, actually 5000 years ago, date to c. 39 000 ~ 40 000 BP.
14:54 Indeed. Penal substitution is false about damnation, but true about death.
The sinless Man died. Those who sinned can rise whenever He wants to raise us from the graves.
17:04 Trusting in the Lord usually means also trusting in His promises.
The Church is the Ark, and neither Ocean Waves nor the Gates of Hell will sink Her. He's captain Noah, once more.
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