Monday, November 25, 2024

Contra Marcionem


Isn't Judaizing a Catholic Heresy?
The Philos Project | 20 Nov. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzsImPqCDJA


[Things you see better in the NT if you know the OT, for context]

12:00 Very notably, the sinlessness of Mary.

"Blessed Among Women" was, in a qualified and limited way ("of Israel" / "who live in tents") stated about Jael and Judith because they had, so to speak, "crushed the head" of an enemy of Israel.

That's very certainly what She was puzzled about. She would obviously not enjoy the prospect of killing a man in the future even, She hadn't killed one so far, so, what was it all about.

"and Blessed is the Fruit of Thy Womb" ... oh, Genesis 3:15!!!

She was since Her time in the temple a sufficiently good theologian to know the one way to defeat the Devil was to not sin. If She had crushed his head, it must mean She had never sinned. Yippee!! (But Her statement in the Magnificat is obviously better).

when you're reading any passage of scripture there's things that you should be 24:50 looking for the the first the base levels was called the literal sense literal doesn't just mean like the 24:55 dictionary definition but what did this mean to the author and what was this understood as meaning


I agree on the three spiritual senses.

I would presumably NOT agree to "what did this mean to the author" if one speculates that he for instance didn't mean Genesis 1 to 11 as literal history.

What Pius XII in Humani Generis says about this section of Scripture is basically "it's told like a Reader's Digest version, with some figures of speech" and it absolutely does not mean that it's history reimagined in a very condensed version and stories to make the thematic cohesions that are there in dilution in the real sequence. He is NOT agreeing with [Jonathan] Pageau.

Stating that there were no creatures looking basically like men before Adam, and Adam lived 2000 ~ 3000 years before Abraham, who met an Egyptian pharao, or stating that Joshua adressed Sun and Moon because it's normal that Sun and Moon do turn around Earth, well, that's not like pretending Exodus 20 starts a separate commandment in verse 4 and then pretending this condemns Catholicism, as some would.

25:34 Latin for you:

Litera gesta docet, quid credas allegoria
moralis quid agas, quo tendas anagogia.


I know it by heart.

Gesta = the deeds that were done. Some Medieval history books had this very word in the title. Gesta Danorum (on Denmark from Odin to the Valdemars). Gesta Dei per Francos (on the Crusades). Trope giver probably Gesta Francorum (on the early history of Franks). While a work by Paul the Deacon (who denies the presence of Godan / Odin in Northern lands at this time, on the ground that he was a Greek who lived 1000 years earlier) is usually cited as Historia Langobardorum, it also has an alternative title, Gesta Langobardorum.

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