Wednesday, December 11, 2024

One Comment, a Bit Prematurely Under a Long Video


Assorted retorts from yahoo boards and elsewhere: One Comment, a Bit Prematurely Under a Long Video · New blog on the kid: Where Are the Four Corners on a Globe?

This Will Settle the Flat Earth Debate Once and for ALL
Answers in Genesis | 10 Dec. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaqyMr4xiBs


OK, Rob Skiba II died.

What experiments do you propose to prove Heliocentrism (daily rotation and annual orbit supposedly both of Earth) against myself or Robert Sungenis?

Because, unlike Rob Skiba II, we are Geocentrics but not Flat Earth.

Ironic to have to insert the "but" for ease of communication here.

Is it your plan to cater only to people who confuse Geocentrism with Flat Earth in order to marginalise Catholics who are Globe Earth Geocentrics from the debate?

Obviously, I'm not against the experiment you seem to be doing, i e one in travel.

I consider it superfluous because travel is already done. And as for any Flat Earther claiming Biblical authority, the common Flat Earth map with North Pole in the centre contradicts Four Corners. However, the Globe has delineations between land and water and some are sides and corners of continents. If you speak of "land hemisphere" and "water hemisphere" the latter is basically the Pacific. But the land part of the land hemisphere is not all of the hemisphere, it's a broken up rectangle, biggest break being the Atlantic. It has, you may have guessed it, four corners. I'd say Africa and India don't protrude much South of a line from Cape Horn to Hobart. India perhaps not at all. Siberia and Québec don't protrude much North of a line from Anchorage to Kamtchatka. The Four Corners are in fact proof of a Globe Earth.

TheJabberwocky28
@thejabberwocky2819
So you have no idea what a corner is. Gotcha

Brandon
@Brandon-w6w
When you have any actual evidence whatsoever that the planets and sun revolves around earth, let us know

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@hglundahl
@thejabberwocky2819 Is Cape Horn a corner?

More specifically, if you draw a line South of the Land Hemisphere and another West of it, will they meet in a corner at Cape Horn? I think so.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@Brandon-w6w The planets except Sun itself and Moon would actually revolve around the Sun, meaning that as the latter goes around the Zodiac, and that once per year, and the Zodiac around Earth, once per day, the pattern of the planets gets complex, against the Zodiac, and resimplifies, around Earth.

Direct observation. When did that cease to be evidence?

TheJabberwocky28
@hglundahl If we're calling cape horn a corner, we can call any arbitrary stretch of coastline a corner. This is not evidence for anything but that your brain is rotting through magical thinking.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@thejabberwocky2819 "any arbitrary stretch of coastline a corner."

Sorry, but while Skagen in Denmark is certainly a corner (two coastline directions meeting at an angle), Skagen is obviously not a corner of the Continents.

Cape Horn is.

I just verified that nothing protrudes South of a line from Cape Horn to Hobart (except islands and Antarctica), and very little protrudes North in inhabited ways of a line from North Alaska to North East Russia.

Point Barrow to Anadyr, more precisely.

It is after that easy to verify that a line from Hobart to Anadyr will leave very little (a minute part of Australia, NZ, and the Kurils, but not Japan) East of it.

A line from Cape Horn to Point Barrow will leave very little West of it.

In other words, there really are four corners of the continents, there could have been five.

TheJabberwocky28
@hglundahl Sure, there's four corners under your conditions. As long as you ignore Antarctica, the north pole, and many other landmasses protruding beyond the corners.

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@thejabberwocky2819 Inhabited landmasses are not numerous outside them.

I just checked for the West edge, between the SW and NW corners. The obvious land there was, that's Anchorage, basically same corner as Point Barrow.

There was no landmass outside at Perú or at Nicaragua or at Northern California.

The North Pole is also not a landmass. There are landmasses North of the North edge, but they are pretty cold and uninhabited ones.

The line passes near Murmansk, and that's city n° 71 in Russia, excluding Crimea. In Greenland, it's way North of Godt-Haab or Nuuk. East of Greenland it's North of Iceland. In Norway it's near Lofoten. In Canada, we are talking Baffin Island.

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