Saturday, October 4, 2025

Snorre was a Christian


No, Odin is not a demigod
Bjorn Andreas Bull-Hansen | 4 Oct. 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVjQvcMgqcw


4:09 Snorre is simply giving history.

He would not have understood what you meant by calling Genesis references "Christian Creation Myth" and he would have regarded Pagan ones (including Ask and Embla starting out as two tree trunks) more like fake history than a totally different literary genus than history.

Precisely as in Heimskringla he is giving history from the Yngling Dynasty from Yngwe Frey's stepfather Odin to his far off descendant St. Olaf. (Yeah, your pet peeve).

A man who renounced believing Odin was a god, but not believing Odin or more properly perhaps his stepson was an ancestor.

4:54 If you believe Christianity, you don't need to be devout to believe Christianity.

Using the phrase as you do comes from the practise of describing freethinkers like Rousseau or Esaias Tegnér (you have probably examples in Norway too) as "lax Christians" ... it's more like "cultural Christians" (like an Atheist from Iran is a "cultural Muslim" ... I met one in Lund).

Sæmund was a bishop and gave a collection of Norse poetry of partly at least genuine or closely fac simile Pagan inspiration without such explicit caveats, no one suspected him of Paganism, i e Apostasy.

To both, Norse Paganism was partly like Greek Paganism was to monks copying Homer before they copy the Bible, partly a way of allowing poets to make references that aren't sincere about factual belief but impressive (the latest in the row being of course a Jew, not a Christian, a certain Stan Lee). Given that poetry in the sense of fiction is meant to be impressive.

5:12 No, Snorre doesn't say Odin created the Earth and Homer doesn't say Ulysses blinded Polypheme.

Snorre says that High, Just-as-High and Third tell Gylfe that Odin and his brothers created the Earth.

Homer says that Ulysses tells Nausicaa that Ulysses blinded Polypheme.

7:39 Why would Snorre's story originate the idea that Norse gods are demi-gods?

In Norse and Homeric "theoiology" the gods were corporeal. Not pure spirits.

Perhaps a Jew considers Christians consider their God as a pure spirit and actually God, but Jesus as "a demi-god," because He's corporeal, but that's absolutely not correct either to Christianity or to Paganism.

Obviously, Nazi Gottgläubige were Deists, with language borrowed from Norse myths, they weren't actual Norse pagans any more than the proto-Deist Voltaire was. At least on the interpretation of Bohrmann. They have far more to do with Voltaire's benefactor Frederick II Hohenzollern than with your religion.

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