And No, I am STILL Not a Flat Earther

Answering Ken Ham on Distant Starlight · And No, I am STILL Not a Flat Earther · Ken Ham Still Prefers Debunking Flat Earth and Only Obliquely Hinting Against Geocentrism?

Christian Astronauts Share What Secular Scientists WON’T About Space
Answers in Genesis | 23 May 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKBi2OyHIXo

6:52 While I think the Moon landing did probably happen, sorry, the idea of proving this by 400 000 people being an impossibly big conspiracy is a bogus argument.

Now, it is an impossibly big conspiracy, no mistake about that, but that big a conspiracy would not have been necessary to fake the moon landings if fake. More like 20 / 30 within NASA and some more in secret agencies or lodges as a backup, for instance when astronoauts would have needed to travel in secrecy from where they did not definitely board Apollo V to when they did not "land in the sea" from a capsule from Apollo V. Everyone else in NASA than the astronauts and just some few more would have been hoodwinked.

The issue is the van Allen belts. I used to believe there probably was a conspiracy when I believed there was no way the astronauts could have passed through that without obvious and pretty rapid harm. I heard an explanation of the van Allen belts that satisfies me, so, I don't believe there was a conspiracy. BUT there seems to be one now, interested in going after conspiracy theorists by strawmanning what the position entails.

11:25 Flat Earth is, by now, antiscriptural, since the four corners of the Continents are more clearly a rectangle (wrapped around a globe) on a globe, than one the major Flat Earth map which is closer to showing three corners, but sorry, apart from that contradiction of Scripture, no, it's not heretical, and just because you are a Christian and an astronaut, doesn't make you an expert on theology or what errors are grave and what errors are insidious.

Some people seem to wallow in the foolishness (real or supposed) of Flat Earth, because all Flat Earthers are Geocentrics, and so, this serves to smear Geocentrics. Without actually having to argue against it, either Scripturally or in Natural and Observational Epistemics. Including obviously, all the Geocentrics who aren't Flat Earthers (Malcolm Bowden, Gerardus Bouw, Robert Sungenis, myself).

Ed.—The subject of geocentricity is now closed. We have received other letters on the same lines as these published here, but we selected the ones by Dr Bouw & Mr Bowden as representative of leading proponents.

TJ 16(2) 2002

Well, what if the subject actually didn't close in 2002? Just because TJ ceased to accept letters about it ... one solution to avoid a reopening could be to make a big fuss about how Flat Earth is wrong and count on Geocentrics actually getting a few drops on themselves as well ...