Thursday, June 8, 2017

... on European Origins

With some disagreements from the Pagan who did this video:

Where do the Slavs come from?

Scythians = we cannot know for sure whether they spoke Slavic, Iranian, Fenno-Ugric or further East Altaic (a k a Turkish), if you ask me, and it is probable they took turns speaking all of these.

Would you consider they come from Magog?

Germanic = I had even heard 80 % of vocabulary is non-IE.

Sword, shield, good, bad, as to raven, it exists in other IE groups too, but only western ones, a bit into Satem area, Lithuanian and Serbocroatian words for magpie. Örn has been given a proto-indo-european recosntructed root, but I saw no non-Germanic examples. As to dove, the PIE reconstruction is tenuously connected : From Proto-Indo-European *dʰewbʰ- (“to whisk; smoke; make obscure”). - In Germanic always a bird. There is of course another bird:

From Middle English hauk, hauke, hawke, havek, from Old English hafoc, heafoc, from Proto-Germanic *habukaz (compare West Frisian hauk, German Low German Haavke, Dutch havik, German Habicht, Norwegian hauk, Faroese heykur, Icelandic haukur), from Proto-Indo-European *kopuǵos (compare Latin capys, capus (“bird of prey”), Albanian gabonjë, shkabë (“eagle”), Russian ко́бец (kóbec, “falcon”), Polish kobuz (“Eurasian Hobby”)), perhaps ultimately derived from *keh₂p- (“seize”).

While a Latinist, I haven't seen either capys* or capus. So, we are left with Germanic, Albanian and Slavonic. Polish was probably another word, and while searching for "kobuc" I found "kobac" = Croation for hawk. Fits. But the word lacks in most branches, though three are considered enough.

* According to Roman sources,[5] in the Etruscan language the word capys meant "hawk" or "falcon" (or possibly "eagle" or "vulture").

But Etruscan is not an IE lang, more likely Fenno-Ugrian, probably close to Hungarian! So, outside Germanic, Albanian and Slavic, the word exists in a kind of Hungarian and only from there in Latin!

Celts = Barry Cunliffe will tell you they had diverse origins, because starting out as a language area (like Balkans) along Atlantic.

And archaeologists will probably not tell you trade is a uniquely modern thing.

I'm giving you an interpretation which won't hurt the pride of Europeans.

Most scholars disagree with you on Neanderthals, and I think Pääbo has given an argument from Y-chromosomes and mitochondrial DNA. So, Neanderthals were replaced. I identify this event with Flood of Noah.

Cro-Magnon = Sethite line.

BUT, there are some Neanderthal genes left, mostly in Europe. I figure Japheth's wife was at least 1/4 Neanderthal. And Japheth's sons and grandsons were given mainly Europe because of her, when Noah (or someone later) divided the countries between the grandsons.

But it is probable Japheth's wife was a blonde or red head.

African DNA = could as well be ... Middle East. But this you will hear lots less often, because it fits the Bible much better.

The thing is DNA of non-Africans and non-Middle Easterners points back to a point of greatest diversity either in Africa or in Middle East. On a Biblical view, Middle East is more likely, that is why Evolutionists go for Africa.

France = land of Gomer. Or one of them - with Cappadocia / Hittite region and ... Germanic tribes. I have heard both Ascenez and Thogorma named as ancestors of Germanic tribes, and both were sons of Gomer. Since I guess you like cave art:

Same root race? Sounds like a quote from Blawatskaja Jelena ...

10:00 I must disappoint you, I have not spoken to Mr Máni any more than to Dame Sól lately. I haven't been very close either. 363 104 km seems to have been the closest I have been to him and 147 098 074 km the closest I have been to her.

On the origin of Slavs as such, I think it may be mixed. That is why I commented only on the side issues of the video, not on it main point./HGL

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