Charlie Kirk praises Israel for the values of Kamala Harris and the incompetence of the IDF

If Israel Laid Down Their Weapons, What Would Happen?
Charlie Kirk | 10 May 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VAoT3JR_0

Israel had a PM named Golda Meir.

My grandparents met her before I was around, and perhaps even before ma was around.

I'm 56. Grandpa was 68 when I was born.

In fact, she was probably not PM yet, that was a few years when I was a small child. She had other posts previously, though.

Is your point that US would have been a better place for women to live in with Hillary Clinton or with Kamala Harris as President?

Even if so, that better country was decades ago.

2:57 "what exactly is Islam doing then"

Well, Muslims certainly acted something similar to Settlers back in the days of Omar. Or of Saladin and Baybars.

That was pretty much even longer ago than Golda Meir was PM.

3:43 Yes, the IDF was so kind to Christians about protecting them from internal quarrels, that the IDF preferred to do the quarrelling themselves.

4:54 October 7 was a genocidal type of terror act, but not a carried out genocide.

Blockades of food since 2009, that's a consistent policy of a prolonged genocidal act.

Gazawis are allowed the food Israel supplies, some times also what UNWRA supplies, but that has stopped. UNWRA is obliged to cooperate with Hamas, because that's civil authorities. If the US needed UNO relief tomorrow, the UNO relief organisations would be obliged to cooperate with Trump, even if there are people in those circles who wouldn't like that. Israelis claim that UNWRA relief has been hijacked, Hamas is controlling it and selling it for weapons.

Meanwhile, whatever cash Gaza has had, the flow of actual food has consistently been too slow, and foreign private initiatives like the Freedom Flotilla or the Soumoud caravan which would not have been needing to collaborate closely with Hamas, have been stopped from giving relief, well before October 7. Starving people is part of why certain camps were considered as genocidal. The parents of Dita Krauss didn't die in gas chambers. Her father died in typhoid, and her mother after getting out, because she had been starved and wasn't used to eating normally. Are you telling her, her mother was not a victim of Nazi crimes?

5:11 I was actually going to concede that things like the attack on the Kfar Aza kibbutz were genocidal.

Let's check. In Kfar Aza, 80 Israelis died. If you like, you can say 80/950 or 80/700 is more proportionally than 55 720 on 2 000 000.

But if Kfar Aza was emptied, it was emptied by IDF, not Hamas. IDF is also trying to empty Gaza.

5:28 The Israeli government was warned.

They didn't act. There was a peace process going on. October 7 disrupted it. And the Israeli government seems to be fine with that.

5:41 Orally, she's not all that well prepared to show evidence, but here is an article of the New York Times:

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago
By Ronen Bergman and Adam Goldman Reporting from Tel Aviv Published Nov. 30, 2023 Updated Dec. 2, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html

A blueprint reviewed by The Times laid out the attack in detail. Israeli officials dismissed it as aspirational and ignored specific warnings.

What is your evidence that Bergman and Goldman would lie about their government?

[tried to add:]

To be fair, the article as such says, the Israeli militaries were simply incompetently underestimating Hamas.

5:45 "the worst killing of Jews since" well, 1945.

So much for the idea that Israel is the haven for Jewish safety.

6:09 The evidence to anything except her claim is that the IDF was incompetent.

6:36 Yeah, right. The day after Tsukkot and on a Shabbat, the Israeli Defense Force is not able to respond ...

And they determined in that day, saying: Whosoever shall come up against us to fight on the sabbath day, we will fight against him: and we will not all die, as our brethren that were slain in the secret places
[1 Machabees 2:41]

The IDF has actually shown more skill on the occasion known as Yom Kippur war, right?

11:28 You are aware that one of the matches between Israel and the West is: Israel is OK with gay marriage (Israelis can marry online "in Utah" while remaining in Israel), and with abortion (Women who get pregnant while serving in the IDF are entitled to free, state-funded abortion, while abortions need a medical committee, this one nearly always approves).

In other words, what lines Israel up with "the West" is what you and I want to get the West away from in part.