Would you agree that if your best debunk of Christianity is the equivalent of a conspiracy theory that claims Caesar never existed, it's worthless? Fine, watch this:
The Apostles Didn’t Die for Jesus — They Might Not Have Even Lived
Darante' LaMar | 30 May 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhRtSHJt0m8
0:24 How would you attempt to prove that George Washington or Abraham Lincoln existed?
How would you attempt to prove that the wars:
1775 to 1783, 1812–1815, 1861–1865
occurred? We have no veterans who fought in them and we have no film footage from any of them. We have no film footage from the two presidents, and we have no surviving people who met them or even whose grandparents met them.
Name everything which is essential, state if we would still know if material items were lost, and then tell me what of that is lacking for the existence of all of the apostles.
- Stormburn
- @stormburn1
- ^comment that could only be made by someone who only learned history through apologetics.
A good start to look for when figuring out whether someone existed: contemporaneous portraits of the figures, numerous journals and letters penned by and about them, newspaper articles about and by them, records of their work history and life in politics, bank statements, and their preserved genealogy.
For the apostles, you have… copies of letters of dubious authenticity followed by records of others’ beliefs about them.
- Hans-Georg Lundahl
- @hglundahl
- @stormburn1 "contemporaneous portraits of the figures, numerous journals and letters penned by and about them, newspaper articles about and by them, records of their work history and life in politics, bank statements, and their preserved genealogy."
All of these are great things for someone in the 19th, 20th, 21st C in the Western World.
So, to retort your taunt about where I learned history, you probably never learned ancient history.
Try to access the bank account of Julius Caesar or a newspaper article by Nero!
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