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Thursday, June 12, 2025
Travelling Clatt Eager to Shut Me Down, Or Is It the Cyber?
Melanie Philips Makes Host SPEECHLESS With Proof Israel Belongs To The Jews
Tal Oran - TheTravelingClatt | 12 June 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv8c_9TLcgk
1:32 Let's distinguish "people" and "religion" shall we.
King David was a close to First Temple Jew, a pre-First Temple Jew. Jesus was a Second Temple Jew. The religious connection between these two versions of Judaism are pretty uncontroversial OT history.
None of them was a Rabbinic Jew any more than a Catholic Christian or a Muslim.
However Rabbinic Mitsrahi Jews, some Catholics, Orthodox, Copts and Armenians in Judaea, Samaria and Gaza, and some Muslims roughly same places are the purest descendants of the people who had Israel as a kingdom, Muslim Palestinians ranking last and some Druz actually in the middle of that. You know that genetic test that was later censored as Antisemitic.
So, as a people, as a physical population with physical ancestry, the Muslim Palestinian actually has more of a connection to the Kingdom of David than the Ashkenazi Jew typically has.
I once very candidly asked "was sind Juden" and got the answer "Juden sind ein Volk" ... in that sense Palestinians are Jews, like the Mitsrahi.
But if you shift and say "Jews are a religious community" and refer to Rabbinic Jews, you have suddenly ceased to talk about the Kingdom of David. Those guys rejected Jesus after they had become as stateless as Palestinians were before WW-I.
[Tried to add]
I speak of Robin McKie, Sun 25 Nov 2001, The Guardian, Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians.
Cited in Zionism: The Secret Evidence Israel Tried to Bury, a video by Rational Religion from 3 Dec 2023
Zionism: The Secret Evidence Israel Tried to Bury
Rational Religion | 3 Dec. 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBf8SeE3OAA
[I forgot to mention Samarians, but also highly related to Ancient Israelites.]
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