Where Tolland Proves Himself a Jerk

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My original remark

3:08 "is the same as for earth" - except that in earth's case, earth is standing still and sun adapting to her. In the case of Mars or Jupiter, the planets are by their angels moved so as to adapt to the sun. The great artists are also producing the beautiful or horrifying (depending on taste) Tychonic orbits.

Tolland

Please remove any possibility of you ever reproducing.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

Are you mad or did you intend to be a jerk of National Socialist and Margaret Sangerite approximate type?

Tolland

+Hans-Georg Lundahl You're the insane one.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

I have a cosmology most modern people don't share, since they have been taught another one in school. You have a morality which decent people don't share. I was giving you benefit of the doubt on having momentarily gone insane and not knowing what you were saying.

A sane man prefers being decent over being modern.

Tolland

+Hans-Georg Lundahl You know nothing about me or my "morality," so stop pretending. I'm pretty sure your "cosmology" starts with "Let there be light."

Hans-Georg Lundahl

I know one thing about your morality, either you think stupid people should be stopped from reproducing, or you find such a nasty thing a not too inappropriate bad joke.

I am perhaps not the best detector of humour without smileys, so I took it in the former sense. Which means you do not have a decent morality.

If it was however just a joke, how about saying so?

As to my cosmology, no, it does not start with Let there be light, it starts a few verses earlier with In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth.

[In case you have a low level of humour detection, the correction was a joke, in practise a cosmology "starting" with one would be "starting" with the other too.]

Tolland

+Hans-Georg Lundahl No, I wasn't joking. If people like you want to spawn, you should be held to the same standard applied to getting a driver's license: proving that you are sensible enough, sane enough, and responsible enough. Your comments have demonstrated that you are woefully inadequate. Stupid people should not be allowed to reproduce, because it just creates more stupid people. And if I have learned anything in 37 years about religion, it is that it has been the single greatest source of misery and death in human history. Religion should be left to philosophical questions, not used to explain the universe. The last time I checked, the God of Christianity expects you to believe in Him based on faith, not evidence. He's left everything else perfectly open to reasoned science.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

"If people like you want to spawn, you should be held to the same standard applied to getting a driver's license: proving that you are sensible enough, sane enough, and responsible enough. + Stupid people should not be allowed to reproduce, because it just creates more stupid people."

You just proved yourself as being an evil person.

"Your comments have demonstrated that you are woefully inadequate."

Your comment proves one way in which your proposed system would be very easily abused. Ideological "cleansing".

"And if I have learned anything in 37 years about religion, it is that it has been the single greatest source of misery and death in human history."

People with your outlook have done most of the misery the last century.

Which was arguably one of the most miserably and deadly centuries.

"Religion should be left to philosophical questions, not used to explain the universe."

Explaining the universe IS a philosophical question.

"The last time I checked, the God of Christianity expects you to believe in Him based on faith, not evidence."

Faith usually is reasonable such, that is has some good evidence for it.

As long as Geocentrism / Geostationary was not discounted as an optical and other sensory illusion (equilibrial sense), the movements of Heaven were one prime evidence for God. And in the Bible actually taken as being so.

"He's left everything else perfectly open to reasoned science."

Your way of dealing with Geocentric propositions is at least NOT reasoned science, it is an attempt of bullying.

I am perfectly both willing and (most upcoming points at least) capable of reasoning for Geocentrism.

But so far you have done one huge ad hominem, because I said a thing you did not like.