Wednesday, December 21, 2022

Faking the Logistics of the Ark to Make it Ludicrous ...


Just the first 5 minutes.

The Ludicrous Logistics of Actually Making Noah's Ark "Work"
BioArk | 20 Febr. 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCjXo4W3Q7Y


2:05 First fake factor in your account.

No, the salinity was pre-Flood low, salinities in the seas have risen since and sea life has adapted.

2:19 On my calculations, passengers would be very little weight compared to that of food in which plant life would also be included.

Plus plant life surviving as mats of flotsam.

2:28 And, again, the flood waters were not salt water.

2:43 Animals on the Ark could partially eat fish and scavange afterwards and partially, adding plant life would have happened miraculously, as this doesn't fake a vital continuity of lineage, since plant life doesn't count as fully living.

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Exaggerated estimates:

8.7 million species - eucaryotes. BUT it is an estimate.
1.2 million species - formally described.
99 % of ever existing species extinct ... BUT it is an estimate.

3:31 "we need them all"

No. First of all, we need no "ghost species" extant in only estimates. Second, we need no fish or sea life. Third, we do not need all species, we need kinds. We have 17 species in 5 genus of the probable kind "hedgehogs" - other possibility, the kind also includes gymnures, making it 25~26 species in ten genus for the kind.

I counted 2032 couples on the Ark as perfectly adequate.

This would include 55 kinds of now extinct life, esp. dinos, perhaps a few less of for instance Moschops or Uintatherium.

Luther Anderson
Well I would like to point out that most fish can't live in the opposite types of water. For example, goldfish can't live in freshwater environments. Secondly, if you think about ants, that have likely millions of species at this point, how can they happen from two kinds of ants? I'm confused

Hans-Georg Lundahl
@Luther Anderson "most fish can't live in the opposite types of water."

I think some of the even most sensitive fish have in aquarium experiments been proven to acclimatise to opposite salinity, with a transition going on for seven years, mind you.

Salinity in seas have risen since the Flood which means some fish have in 5000 years become "salt addicted" ...

"ants, that have likely millions of species at this point, how can they happen from two kinds of ants?"

Not a very remarcable thing, probably means either ants have an aversion to mating with even slightly different ants or that scientists studying them (a subcategory of entomologists) have a taste for splitting rather than lumping in classifications.


4:07 Prokaryotes do not count as "life" in Biblical terms.

4:28 Sorry but your view of Minimum viable population (that's the technical term) is wrong.

The Laysan duck were reduced to 12 individuals, and the population of Pitcairn has reached similar lows.

And this even for populations 5000 years later with 5000 years' worth of accumulating bad mutations since the Flood.

5:05 Here we are in the surreal. "5 billion eucaryotic" - no baraminology allowed - and "100 trillion procaryotic species" - as if "special creation" meant "no speciation allowed" ... and this is especially problametic in procaryotes, since they don't breed with each other, and you cannot take breeding together as a corrective saying "same species" ... what if all gram negative bacilli were present in one version on or outside the ark, that one didn't do any damage and damaging versions have arisen since by mutations that actually stifle the procaryote's living ability?

No, no "750 billion eucaryotic specimens" either ...

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