Israeli Prime Minister Admits Jews Didn't Originally Come From Israel
Kim Iversen | 19 April 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuqLB_8HcRk
1:36 He's placing the Exodus too recently.
Some liberal Christians and many Jews would place the Exodus in the time of Ramses II.
For liberal Christians, it's a question of mythologising the Joshua and Judges timeline, prior to King David.
But for Jews, it's a question of compressing the timeline of Daniel's weeks, so that the relevant one of them could fall in Bar Kokhba's time rather than in Jesus' time.
So, if you are familiar with Ussher, Creation would be 4004 BC. You would expect this year to be 6028 on a Jewish calendar. It's 5784 instead. This is because of this compression in favour of Bar Kokhba.
It can be mentioned that while there are longer timelines, those are not in Jewish Bibles, only Christian and Samarian ones.
2:04 Now note, it would be very unfair to Palestinians to consider them as Canaanites or Philistines.
They sometimes in the PLO narrative make that claim, comparing Joshua to the Zionists. This is wrong. Whatever remains of Canaanites or Philistines might have survived to the times of the Exodus, by the time of Our Lord it was already (except the borders of Lebanon, in Matthew 15, Jesus is in Lebanon, that's where he meets the Canaanean or Syrophoenician woman, Tyre and Sidon are in Lebanon), assimilated to Israelites.
The Israelites that lived on in the land after Jesus' time were three groups, Samaritans being a tiny minority, then Jews, then Christians. Palestinians descend from Christian Israelites.
The conquest by Omar has not left too much traces in Palestinian DNA, perhaps 7 % is peninsular Arabs, so Muslim Palestinians are those of the Christian Palestinians and of the Jews who were forced to become Muslims then. Or who chose to.
2:22 I would rather go with local Jewish and Muslim tradition from East Turkey, stating that Ur Kasdim was Urfa, not very far from Göbekli Tepe. Now it's called Şanlıurfa.
373 miles SE of Ankara. Or 289 miles North North-East of Damascus.
In Upper Mesopotamia.
2:59 Abraham in total had 8 sons.
1) Ishmael, by Hagar, 2) Isaac, by Sarah, "And the sons of Cetura, Abraham's concubine, whom she bore: 3) Zamran, 4) Jecsan, 5) Madan, 6) Madian, 7) Jesboc, and 8) Sue." [1st Paralipomenon 1:32, except for my inserted counting]
12 boys and one girl sounds more like his grandson Jacob.
3:40 = 2:16 in the Naftali Bennett clip.
"few Jews stayed in Israel"
He means Jews of Jewish confession. Most Israelites in the Holy Land after Titus and after Bar Kokhba were Christians.
Obviously, a chronicler of Jewish confession would consider them as Goyim, after they ceased to keep kashrut even on an irregular basis, even in Jerusalem.
That's where "there were few Jews in Israel" comes from.
4:53 When I look up Gozan, I find two alternatives.
Gozan may refer to:
Jazan, Saudi Arabia (not relevant)
The ancient River Gozan, Amu Darya, the River Amu or Oxus, a river in North Afghanistan and Central Asia.
the Five Mountain System, a Japanese network of Zen temples (Gozan Seidō) (not relevant)
Tell Halaf, a Syrian archeological site near the city of Guzana or Gozan
The Medes can be looked up, and that's only sites within Iran.
So, the immediate destination of the Ten Tribes would either have been split between Tell Halaf and Iran, or pretty contiguous, Iran and Afghanistan.
However, there is evidence ten tribes tribesmen came to Jerusalem in the post-exile era, and there is at least some possibility the Samarians in Jesus' time had ten tribes ancestry.
Especially as the Samarians today (not many left, 777, I've heard a few years ago) are the most pure Israelite population, followed by Christian Palestinians, if you compare to the DNA of an Iron Age skeleton from Galilee. Between Christian Palestinians and Muslim Palestinians, you will find two Druz populations as well as some Oriental Jewish and Karaite populations.
Shepharad and Ashkenazi Jews are less pure.
5:58 "pretty lousy 2000 years, pogroms, holocaust"
What a lousy historian.
But it is true that Jews for most of the era have been second rate citizens over both Christian and Muslim countries, and have sometimes been targetted.
So, if you believe Deuteronomy 28, how do you explain this?
The most obvious answer is, rejecting Jesus means disobedience to the God that Moses espoused Israel to.
7:27 You mean Queen Poppaea and Nero?
Helena is St. Helen, the mother of Constantine. She was obviously a Christian and recovered the Holy Cross.
8:09 That Jabotinsky could have some Khazar ancestry is probable, less so for Herzl.
But actually, East European ancestry seems more common than Khazar ancestry.
Jabotinsky was born in Odessa, modern Ukraine.
8:44 Their Jewishness actually has partial ties to the region.
Back when AncestralBrew was still making genetic breakdowns of ethnicities, I found this for Ashkenazi Jews:
South Europe 31 %
North / Central Europe 26 %
NW Asia + Mesopotamia 20 %
Levant 19 %
North Africa 2.5 %
Proto-Turkic 1.5 %
Levant is an average of 19 % that can vary, and means historic Israelites. Khazars would be Proto-Turkic, and therefore account for only (a much more stable) 1.5 %.
9:01 NB "the term Palestine was coined by the Romans to dissociate it from Judaea, it had no connection to Arabs"
Two bloopers.
Palaestina refers to a collection of smaller provinces, Judae, Samaria and Galilaea, perhaps some others too.
AND Palestinians aren't Arabs. They are Mustariba. This means, they have adopted the Arab language and partially the Muslim religion in response to Islamo-Arabic Conquest, like Muslim Palestinians spoke Aramaic to the IX C. or X, 200--300 years after the Conquest of Omar, while the Christian Palestinians still used Aramaic until some decade or century after the Crusades had been lost.
That Muslim Palestinians have Shareefs that descend from Muhammed, yes, that is ancestry from the Arabian Peninsula, but calling the overall population Peninsular Arabs because of that is like calling Robert Bruce a Norman, because his ancestor was one:
"Robert I de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale (c. 1078–1141) was an early-12th-century Anglo-Norman lord and the first of the Bruce dynasty to hold lands in Scotland."
That's a Norman. Robert the Bruce would in relation to Annandale be the 7th Lord. He was a Scotsman. Shareefs among Palestinians are even more remote from Omar's time than Robert the Bruce was from the Norman arrival.
9:11 The Conquest by Omar certainly doesn't explain even Muslim Palestinian ancestry to 100 % (more like 7 %), and even less so Christian Palestinian ancestry.
It's an idiocy, though my family believed it and I believed it myself, to consider the Palestinians as descending from those conquerors other than very marginally.
9:34 The Jews of the area under Roman rule were mainly Christians, and would identify as Christians. In the 1860's the Palestinian population identified as Muslim, Christian, Jewish.
The then Jewish part would be Mitsrahi Jews. Some of them were expelled by the Ottomans, and have mingled with Jewish or Judeo-Christian families in Europe.
13:20 Full equal rights may be correct on the paper, but depending on the place you live in it's not true in practise.
Bethlehem has military watchtowers, East Jerusalem is not better, rather worse.
However, he can state that if an Israeli citzen of "Arab nationality" (a Christian Palestinian or a Muslim Palestinian) chose to live in Haifa or sth, he would even in practise have equal rights, but he would have left his ancestral home. There were Palestinians in modern Tel Aviv, who were expelled, they are not citizens, they do not enjoy the right to return to their ancestral home. If he stays in Bethlehem or East Jerusalem, sure, he has equal rights on the paper, but in practise he is discriminated against, not just because of partiality for the Ashkenazi, but simply for the fact that those areas are military sensible areas, as the Israeli army counts them.
"an Arab Israeli 13:49 who meets you know there's two million 13:51 of them but they go outside to maybe the 13:54 West Bank they meet a nice girl they 13:56 cannot bring her back in to live in 13:58 Israel 14:00 the process is extremely difficult to 14:01 try to get permission for that the the 14:05 Israeli government is not looking to 14:07 import Arabs into Israel so they highly 14:10 discourage this and they don't give out 14:11 permits very often that means that that 14:14 Arab is forced to then move to the West 14:16 Bank which is what Israel wants"
Did not know this.
Horrible.
Spiritually Egypt, like it says in Apocalypse 11. We are not far from the return of Henoch and Elijah if you ask me (spiritually Sodom is true of Jerusalem since 2002 if not 1997).
15:59 "all the way back to the Canaanites"
More like the Palestinians can prove their existence all the way back to the Israelites.
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