Tuesday, September 12, 2017

... on Armed Force by Catholic States

Three questions, on Rome under Constantine and THeodosius, on Middle Ages and Crusades, and on possible future, even possible near future.

How was the persecution of non-Christians by the Catholic Church in the Roman Empire justified?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Converted to Roman Catholic Church, Novus Ordo version, then to Trad.
Answered 21h ago
Non-Christians IN the Roman empire.

Before the fall of Romulus Augustulus, I suppose?

If you mean free citizens, they were only persecuted in case they wanted to practise paganism in public. Private paganism was allowed but went out of fashion.

If you mean slaves, well, a pagan slave under a Christian master could get some stripes if he tried to practise paganism on what was after all a Christian’s property. Pagans had done worse to Christian slaves before that.

If you mean Jews, they were not persecuted. They were disadvantaged in some ways (you had to be so many Jews to accuse one Christian layman), but this is because they had abused their equal terms with Pagans to arouse more than one persecution against Christians.

What were the Crusades all about?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
History buff since childhood. CSL & Eco added to Medieval lore. + Classics.
Answered Sep 2

  • Defending a Holy Place. With Holy Things.
  • Liberating Christian Populations there.
  • Taking back old Christian territory previously usurped by Muslim occupation (they started c. 60 years after completed Reconquista of Sicily and after beginning or new beginning of Reconquista in Spain).

This if you mean the Crusades to Near East, especially Holy Land.

In Crusades across the Baltic or across countries south of the Baltic, Swedish, Danish, Swordbearing and Teutonic Knights, national or of orders, were trying to …

  • Rid Christians from harrassment by neighbours
  • Reduce harrassers/marauders to non-violent, sometimes even servile, state. The part about servile is especially about the two orders.

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Answer requested by Amirrul Hakim

Tibor Bamhor
Answered Jul 26, 2016
Imagine that killing and murdering by islamic fanatics will go on for couple of years in europe. Most of original population will get into same mood as population of south europe around 1000. So when pope called for military stand against muslims expansion, a lot of peoples sold what they had and leaved to fight them. It was like sacred duty to defend their homeland.

Of course, the movement brough also a lot of injustice, violence, and was only partially successful.

Have you ever heard the phrase "The powerful Monarch, who is sent from God, will uproot every Republic"?

Answer requested by Darrick Wagner

Hans-Georg Lundahl
I speak two langs, Latin and Germanic. In a few dialects.
Updated 5m ago
No, I have not done so.

I have heard about “the great monarch” and about his being sent from God, but that doesn’t equate with uprooting all republican régimes.

He might uproot every usurping republic, those usurping the former monarchic rules of same countries, like restoring Bourbon monarchy in France.

But uprooting a republic just because it is a republic - like San Marino - makes very little sense.

I think - this is an update - I have heard sth like “will uproot every godless republic”.

Other answer

Jason Whyte
Not actually a linguist
Answered Sep 3
A2A. No, I have never heard that phrase.

Googling it returned this rather bizarre website, 2017 - Great Help From The Northern Warrior King...2016-11-25 - expandourmind, which includes the quote as a 17th Century prophecy from “Ven[erable] B. Holzhauser”.

Holzhauser was a German priest and prophetic visionary, who allegedly foresaw the execution of Charles I of England.

It seems Holzahauser had said "every Republic" and I had read another prophecy, on every godless Republic.

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