Monday, March 4, 2019

Can Anyone Suffer from Schizophrenia?

Do some Christians think that it's impossible to be Christian and suffer from schizophrenia?

Hans-Georg Lundahl, Studied religions as curious parallels and contrasts to Xtian faith since 9, 10?
Answered Mar 6, 2018
I think it is impossible to be anything and suffer from schizophrenia.

A sham diagnosis is not sth which one can suffer from.

Oh, you can of course suffer socially from it, but I meant medical suffering.

Holly Baier
Feb 5
Could you further explain this answer. Specifically what you consider to be suffering socially, verses suffering medically.

Also would you (in your opinion) apply this to any other mental illnesses? Or just personality disorders?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Just now
If you suffer because someone considers you as schizophreniac and therefore takes responsibilities from you so you can’t do what you want, or forces medication or hospital emprisonment on you that you don’t like, I consider such suffering definitely social and not medical.

As to medical conditions, people can suffer from some of the conditions lumped together as schizophrenia, but that would still not always qualify as medical suffering properly in all cases (with madness, one of them, it would, it’s a ten thousand times more scientific word than schizophrenia), and there are conditions that are neither medically bad nor suffering (hebephilia, if enjoyed, for one), and there are also conditions that are improperly verified involved, as auditory hallucinations often being verified either by someone talking to himself (which could very well be Ben Gunn’s syndrome) or by someone to confessing to “hearing voices” in a sense where what is involved is an interior voice. Not one perceived as a perception from the ear, but one perceived, as with own thoughts, as one perceives memories of what one hears.

Do you have an inner dialogue instead of an inner monologue? Stay CLEAR of shrinks, then!

Bipolar is usually genuine as to condition, but shrinks would probably too often overdo how hard one is suffering from it and intervene when no intervention is needed.

Putting people on lifelong medication for bipolar, and scaring either them or their surroundings that if they leave off medication they could commit suicide is not taking into account that antidepressants have been linked to suicides or murders, and also overdramatising the simple depression factor in suicides, as if cultural and religious outlook had nothing to do with how intense depression one can take without actually getting suicidal.

Holly Baier
1h ago
It sounds like you may have some personal experiences from which you are drawing from. Would that be a correct deduction?

If no, and your above answer is more than baseless opinion, could you provide some sources from the medical community supporting any of your conclusions?

Hans-Georg Lundahl
Just now
Let’s put it like this.

I have read a novel by Chesterton in which a man is a hero because he saves another man from being shut up in mental hospital.

I have seen sufficient in my life to fully endorse that, but even if I hadn’t, I would not feel the need to provide sources from the medical community, as if they were the only ones who had a say.

We live after a century of fairly open abuse of power by mental institutions, and calling it out for the bullying it is doesn’t take medical expertise.

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