In Case you Wonder, I'm No Mormon

When Mormon Missionaries Came to My House
Brian Holdsworth | 6 July 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evwGyxUljkw

7:20 Another novel conception: posing the Great Apostasy at after the Apostles Died = contradicting Matthew 28:16—20. (The claims of Luther also do that, but in a somewhat more roundabout way).

Back after my granny died, I received two of them, and the next time, they didn't come into a discussion.

Minor point with them, they didn't know Catholic clergy and religious are required to read or sing but certainly pray the psalms each week.

8:39 Before hearing your first question, the covenants are not similar at every point.

Deuteronomy 28 is a conditional covenant, and a promise of an upcoming eternal covenant.

Matthew 28:16—20 finishes off the eternal, therefore unconditional, covenant.

God allows backsliding in parts of the Church, and I believe currently in most of the Church, but never in all of it.

13:26 Protestants on this issue could say "we have OT from the Jews, most of NT was accepted in all local Churches, a few books who weren't had even so been accepted by most of the Church, most local Churches, therefore this near consensus on each NT book goes back to the Apostles" ... the one Apostolic tradition not corrupted.

Even from a Catholic view, each book was inspired and accepted by parts of the Church as such, as soon as it was written and given by writer to destination. So, for each book, infallible Apostolic tradition precedes the decisions in Rome, Carthage and Hippo.

15:22 Remind you of another religion, right? Though in their case it's four wives ...

Ironically, I have over and over been called a Mormon, because:

• I like Mormons on a personal level
• I have stated that it is metaphysically possible for Joseph Smith to have knowledge and especially mastery of Nephetic (I also stated this was not just God's prerogative, demons could do it)
• and I find the Mormon view of Great Apostasy and Revival clearer and less roundabout to refute than the view of the Reformers, which is a muddled version of it.

Plus, maybe, some very uncultured people who grew up in extreme isolation think Catholicism is stranger to YEC, so, if I'm YEC, I must have it from Mormons (never mind St. Augstine was very explicit in City of God). That could be a cause too.

Different issue:

15:22 bis, one more reason some very isolated educations resulted in taking me for a Mormon could be I considered the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints that were raided, certainly wrong about polygamy, when that occurred, but with equal certainty right about marital age.

Raising it to 18 was a fad of the late 1800's (at least for girls).

It's not a question of my accepting the (non-extant) authority of Fundamentalist Latter Days Saints, it is however a question of my accepting the extant authority of the Catholic Church, which for most of the time it had an explicit age limit had it 12 for girls, 14 for boys, even right to the beginning of the century I was born in. In 1917, that was raised to 14—16, compatible with early Mormon practise and FLDS raided and punished practise.

Under the Czars, or at least the last one, it was 13—15, until Lenin changed that to 18—18, another one of his crimes.

It had previous to the one or two last Czars been 12—14 as among Roman Catholics.

Video which reminded me of it:

The True Story of Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger
Mormonism Explained | 26 June 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNXaufFis0E

If we compare two prophets that can't be true ones (there was no Great Apostasy of all the Church, Paul and Constantine didn't forge the Gospel text), the affair of Fanny Alger seems more humane than that of Zaynab bint Jahsh, first told to marry Muhammed's adopted son Zayd ibn Haritha al-Kalbi, then that stepson was told to giver her up so his stepfather could marry her.

I don't know the current stance of your version of LDS on marital age, but for 14 year old, there is Helen Marr Kimball. THAT would not have got Joseph Smith lynched in the US of back then (unlike some areas now, apparently), if there had been no polygamy.