Monday, March 31, 2025

Tovia Singer Judges Monotheletism ...


How Many Jews Will Tovia Singer Convert to Christianity? · Tovia Singer Judges Monotheletism ...

... but he thinks he's judging Christianity.

Judaism vs. Christianity on the Messiah: Why We Differ -Rabbi Tovia Singer
Tovia Singer | 10 Sept. 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_SWAcZqTbE


From the side of the human will, He could theoretically have sinned, as Adam sinned, though previously innocent.

From the side of the divine will, and of their perfect union, He could not have sinned. A will that in itself was capable of falling, was gifted by the divine will, of the same person, with the gift of impeccability, like that of the blessed after the Resurrection.

He was in the earthly life "simul viator et comprehensor" i e He was simultaneously in the state of those who haven't died yet and of those who are Resurrected in Glory (starting with Him and His Mother). Concretely, therefore, He could not have sinned, but there was in Him sth which apart from this circumstance could have. Which therefore could experience the strain of the temptation.

Thanks for reminding me Monotheletism (the doctrine He only had one will) is a heresy.

5:51 Isaias 2, first four verses: 1 The word that Isaias the son of Amos saw, concerning Juda and Jerusalem. 2 And in the last days the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be prepared on the top of mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills, and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go, and say: Come and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob, and he will teach us his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall come forth from Sion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Catholic comment:

[2] "The last days": The whole time of the new law, from the coming of Christ till the end of the world, is called in the scripture the last days; because no other age or time shall come after it, but only eternity.-- Ibid.

[2] "On the top of mountains": This shews the perpetual visibility of the church of Christ: for a mountain upon the top of mountains cannot be hid.


The Catholic Church actually began teaching in Jerusalem, in Acts chapter 2.

6:20 That war will come to an end as soon as the Messias comes does not follow from the prophecies you have cited.

Two things should not be conflated:
  • Judah and Ephraim will make no more wars against each other and will have no armies (fulfilled in the Palestinian Christians who descend from First Century Jews and Samaritans, and by the way, they have not made wars against either Mitsrahi Jews or non-Christian Samaritans).
  • God's word of peace will go out to the peoples.


It has. It has not abolished all war, but it has changed the way war is viewed. You may have noticed a certain Herzog and a certain Netanyahu arguing for total war, as if you were Joshua fighting Canaaneans. You may also have noticed quite a few Christian voices basically stating "we don't do total war, we don't kill civilians" ... well, that's the effect of God's word of peace going out to the nations 2000 years ago. Class relations have changed. Sex relations have changed. Age relations have changed. Slavery has been abolished in Christian country after Christian country (South of US and Brazil were the last ones, at least among Catholic and Protestant countries, Russian serfdom may not have been quite the same, I'm not totally sure of conditions in Ethiopia prior to Italy and to Communism). Women are seen as fully honourable, equal in honour if not all other rights to men. Children are not slaves of parents, disobedient children are not stoned or decapitated.

6:41 Indeed, the first Christians were Jews who repented.

6:52 St. Paul doesn't say no one can repent.

He says no one can make an initiative to repent independently of God. Big difference. When God saves, in precisely St. Paul, the ones saved as adults repent.

Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God. And such some of you were; but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Spirit of our God

I e, the sinners whom Jesus saved were saved by repenting. I Cor. 6:9-11.

6:58 Here is the LXX text for Isaias 59:20

καὶ ἥξει ἕνεκεν Σιων ὁ ῥυόμενος καὶ ἀποστρέψει ἀσεβείας ἀπὸ Ιακωβ

The exact same wording is found in St. Paul's Greek in Romans 11, except there is no "kai" and "heneken" has been changed to "ek" ...

9:05 Jesus could as man fear God, while as God being God.

Again, no problem. He did the appropriate thing in both natures.

9:55 Again no contradiction. Eccl. 12:13

Let us all hear together the conclusion of the discourse. Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is all man:

Ah, wait, you translate "kal ha adam" as "all man's" and we as "all man" ...

But I think "kal" / "kol" can also be translated "the whole" ... now, "this is the whole man" ... what about the broken man who currently doesn't do that? He needs to become whole, which is where a Christian redeemer comes in. (I don't master Hebrew by the way, I consult the interlinear know what a status constructus is, guess "kal" is constructus for "kol" and consult 3605. kol for the range of meanings being All, every, whole, entire, total).

10:20 Obviously the "we" or "our sins" in Isaias 53 refers to the believers.

We don't say "Jesus died for our sins" is the only thing you have to believe.

The presence of the "we" obviously proves that the suffering servant is not the people of Israel.

10:41 No, freemasonry and some versions of Judaism (kabbalism, lots of mentorship going on) is that highly developed version of mystery religions.

11:24 No, as a Jew not believing in Jesus you are not a light to the nations. Jesus passed that office to those believing in Him:

You are the light of the world. A city seated on a mountain cannot be hid.
[Matthew 5:14]

The audience were Jews, they were not exclusively His disciples, the mountain was still Zion, but they were listening and believing. That is what Catholics do to this day. (Oh, not all of us, there are some bad Catholics too).

@ToviaSinger1
The Christian Lie About the Septuagint! -Rabbi Tovia Singer
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O8FfKX1-H60


Already in the five books of Moses we have an example of Jews having a motive to change the text.

I'd also say the rest of the LXX was extant before Christianity came around, like when St. Paul refers to the Scriptures which St. Tim had known since childhood, since St Tim was a Hellenistic Jew, he knew them as the LXX.

Back to the motive. With a Masoretic Genesis 11, you could argue that Melchisedec was Shem, which was clearly not the opinion of St. Paul about the tithing of Abraham.

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