Sharing a Discussion on Africa, Commenting on Not so African Things that I Know Better

The Myth of the African Novus Ordo, Vatican II Success Story with Dr. Peter Kwasniewski
Mere Tradition with Kennedy Hall | 27 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNSfx4FahWE

36:47 They even use names in Old Church Slavonic. Vladimir is Old Church Slavonic. The Ukrainean Volodymyr feels "rustic" to Russians, because it's the actual Russian form.

The nickname for a Vladimir is Volodya.

Confer South Slavic forms in -grad (Beograd), and note, Old Church Slavonic is actually Old Bulgarian, with East Slavic (Russian, Ukrainian, etc) forms in -gorod (Novgorod).

That said, people who are used to the liturgy in Greece or Russia or Ukraine will arguably come to understand the liturgic language by kind of osmosis, like Danish worked for me (I'm a Swede) or like Dutch partly worked for me (I grew up bilingual in German).

Latin came to a breaking point in 800 to 813. Before 800, the Latin in France was definitely odd to priests from elsewhere. From 813 it was recognised, common people didn't really understand Latin. The difference was made by Alcuin as to brushing up Proto-Romance with Latin to Latinising spelling into actual Latin of centuries earlier in Rome, and the reaction was to add an explanation in the vernacuar when people were obliged to attend (Lord's Days and Holidays of Obligation), either about the Gospel or about the object of the feast.

So, all of the sacred languages actually started out as vernaculars (Pali was the native language of Buddha and of Ashoka, btw, we find older inscriptions in Pali than in Sanscrit, the oldest being by Ashoka). When Pope Michael I allowed the Mass of 1950's liturgic books to be said with the translation for the faithful instead of the Latin, it was not an overreach.

38:24 They are certainly wrong about history as a method.

I've seen so many deny that the founding of Rome by Romulus and the war of Troy are historic events. "No, oral tradition isn't good enough, we need contemporary written records" ...

Well, contemporary written records are a plus, but for most of Genesis, starting with chapter 2, Moses, relied on oral tradition, which was good enough for him, or at least for Genesis 2 to 11 he did, and it was good enough for Abraham (a Beduin tribe would have been able to preserve records from Genesis 12 on, and also to write down the oral transmission from up to Abraham).

46:44 There is an ancient exception. Since Tarquin the haughty raped Lucretia, Rome was allergic against monarchy.

The result came to be a highly oligarchic Senatorial state, which I count as the Ancient version of the Fourth Beast. The modern version would be Communism, which obviously is highly Senatorial to not say Senile.

47:05 Clovis, obviously, and Saint Volodymyr in Ukraine. His capital was Kiev. Ukraine has preserved more of the old Rus' than Russia has, since Russia was Tatarised.

Did you know that St. Bridget was told to tell our king in Sweden (back then bigger, also included Finland) to go on a Crusade against the Heathen of Novgorod?

My second father confessor, back then Novus Ordo, now EOF, mentioned this to me, to dissuade me from believing too much in private revelations. His argument was "obviously the Russian Orthodox weren't Pagans, so, St. Bridget mistook her own culture for God's voice" ... I think she didn't. Novgorod was at the time (100 years after Alexander Nevski) dominated by the Tatars. And with Tatars busy on the Swedish front, there might not have been that Tatar siege on Crimea, which got the Bubonic plague started in Europe.