How Niche is Creationism?

Discovery Institute seems to have overestimated the honesty of scientific institutions, 20 years ago. So, my comments start with someone else's comments and are really a tangent.

Hey Discovery Institute, How's That 20-Year Plan Going?
Creation Myths | 27 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8meWkfXYCg

gupdoo3

@gupdoo3

Speaking of how niche creationism is. One time I told my cousin that I was a YEC until my late teens/early 20s and she was shocked that was even possible

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@hglundahl

I was an Evolutionist up to age 10 (one year after I became Christian, first year I tried to turn every stone on how Evolution, my previous belief, could harmonise with the Bible).

Fulminato

@ilFulminat0

@hglundahl oh, yes. the mental ability of a person of 10 years old are developed enough to end this debate.

don't care about the thousand poeople devoted their live to understand nature (in this case biology). trust the intuition of a 10 years old.*

convincing.

Austin Sims

@creationismsuperthesisguy

I'm in college for biology right now. Tons of religious people. Not one creationist so far.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@ [Fulminato] Did I say I went by intuition?

Did I say I have stopped thinking at 10?

No.

My point was simply, don't brag for your position that mine was one you had when you were more immature. Yours is one that I had when I was more immature.*

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@ [Austin Sims] how is your professor explaining the waiting time problem?

Like this?

Waiting-time? No Problem.**
Zach B. Hancock | 6 March 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLPZxAU9nAM

"gene is doubled, each half retains half of the function, and one or other half on the other part gains a new function, that only takes one million years"?

Basically?

One million years is non-observed time, as to human and scientific observation at least. I e, the process is just hypothesised, never shown to have happened.

Cell types, well, there was a page saying the human body's cell types appeared on average one new every three million years, excepting neurons.

Obviously not observed, but also not observed among millions of other species.

Fulminato

@hglundahl intuition it's the only instrument a 10 year old kid had access.
because i cannot call "indoctrinal brainwashing" an instument, or even a tought process.

for all intents and purposes you never start to think, if you are still stick what your line of thinking was at 10, without wavering.

the sum of all it's your reasoning backfire spectacular. you only prove how brittle you reasoning is, an if you are saying the true, how much indotrinated are you.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@ilFulminat0 " intuition it's the only instrument a 10 year old kid had access"

No, a 10 year old can definitely have access to reason and know whether Evolution is or isn't compatible with the Bible.

"if you are still stick what your line of thinking was at 10, without wavering."

So, all unwavering Evolution believers since age 10 never started to think?

Or was that just applicable one way, from you to your opponents? Ad hominem, did you hear of that?

Other thread:

Dr. Chris Thompson

@Dr.ChrisThompson

Oh boy, I remember when the Wedge Document leaked. It was a huge deal at the time. I appreciate the walk down memory lane. It seemed "ambitious" at the time, but clearly they were delusional with their plan.

Steve Greene

@steveg1961

Just like they're delusional about science.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@steveg1961 That no.

Plan, yes. Except "delusional" is a pejorative for over-optimistic.

Steve Greene

@ [Hans-Georg Lundahl] No, I'm speaking in the context of the long history of creationism pseudoscience. I'm not being pejorative. I'm being factual.

Also, I believe I made another, longer post, that the Facebook bot filter chose to remove for no good reason whatsoever.

Hans-Georg Lundahl

@ [Steve Greene] No, they are not delusional about science and they are less wrong than you are.

* Creationism is really a bit too niche when he thinks he can get away with that and when I have to make this reply.
** May be doing a kind of reaction to that one later.