On Adam and Eve and their Whenabouts

Correcting Brandon Robbins on Some Things Flood-Related · On Adam and Eve and their Whenabouts

Scientific Evidence That Adam & Eve Existed?! (Priest Reacts)
Father David Michael Moses | 21 March 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVM49DgEeiE

0:32 Technically correct. De Genesi ad litteram libri XII, the discussion starts somewhere in book IV, covers all of book V and ends near the beginning of book VI.

But two caveats.

1) He never said the creation of a complete universe could be considerably longer than 6 * 24 hours, he just said it probably was considerably shorter, i e one moment.
2) Even if you extrapolate, either that the 6 days could be longer periods (as Fr. Fulcran Vigouroux did) or that there was a gap before the 6 * 24 hours, and long periods before that gap, (as Cardinal Wiseman did), from the creation of Adam and Eve on, this still leaves you with Biblical chronology. Like Genesis 5 says, according to text versions a few versions between 1300 + and 2262 years up to the Flood. Like Genesis 11 says, according to text versions, 292, 942 or 1070 years from Flood to birth of Abraham, and I think I've seen Josephus go some century short of 942 years.

And in case you wanted to extrapolate further freedoms from St. Augustin's view of the Creation days, that's a no-go. In City of God (which, while leaving me Roman Catholic, converted me back to YEC, as I had been up to a few years after my conversion), you find he's pretty strict on taking Genesis 5 and 11 literally.

2:00 I recomend you don't take the 200,000 years literally.

Those scientists have been checking genetic changes with the understanding of populations always being fairly big.

By contrast, if you go to the Biblical story, the first generations after Adam and Eve are a bottleneck, the time after the Flood was a bottleneck, and for many populations after Babel the first time after this split was a bottleneck too.

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@ji8044 What's funny?

You do agree that with sciences, we need to consider scientific methods, and for some there are weaknesses, don't you?

For a mutation to spread in a group of 72 men plus women and children is obviously faster than for it to spread in a population of "at least 10 000" like the scientists count, those in question. This number 72 men etc. is part of the post-Flood bottleneck ending in Babel, followed by smaller bottlenecks after Babel.

4:08 The huge majority of the saints were Young Earth Creationists and Geocentrics.

I'm modelling my intellectual life on that (this includes St. Augustine and St. Thomas).

4:28 Y-chromosome Adam is also known as Noah.

Mitochondrial Eve was the last common female ancestor of the three daughters in law. Probably later than Eve.

Neanderthals have different Y-chromosomes and mitochondriae, they descend from Adam and Eve too.